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Noisy Babies / Wicklesham - 09/03/10

A bit late to the discussion sorry. All these requests for a family friendly cafe whilst the answer is already there. Wicklesham need their planning for a permanent cafe structure approved by VoWH. They provide a wonderful family-friendly social hub (with outstanding produce and food), and are only hampered by the weather = something that would be solved by a solid building to house the cafe. It is HUGELY family-friendly (Cheryl goes out of her way to make the kids welcome, with a huge basket of toys and lovely fresh air and walks in the fields, and is realistic about the noise levels children generate!), and it is also a great tourist draw for Faringdon. Please support their planning application as they are doing a great service for the area.

Jen
Untidy Estate - 09/03/10

As Canada Lane and the Oakwood Estate roads were in such an untidy state, I rang the council on Thursday afternoon to ask if the road sweeper vehicle could be sent there. It has just been round, and the roads look much better. I was informed by the council, that the vehicle is only sent to the roads such as ours, when requested by residents.

name supplied
Manure wanted - 09/03/10

does anyone have any manure we can have for our allotment, or know where to go for some ? Shame dog manure doesn't work....

Kate Brady
Daffodil Death - 09/03/10

Up Folly Hill a lone daffodil bravely bloomed on Saturday, a solitary herald of Spring. By Sunday it was gone, cut off in it's prime. Sad that folk can't leave flowers to bloom where all can enjoy them.

name supplied
Dog Waste bins. - 08/03/10

Who is responsible for emptying the dog waste bins? The one near Pye Street apart from leaning over at an awkward angle for the past few months is overflowing. No point encouraging people to use them if the people who are charged with emptying them are guilty of a dereliction of duty.

name supplied
Eccentricity - 08/03/10

I was missing why I liked Faringdon, eccentricity. Thanks Tom, yes it is a major factor but then you would expect that from a bloke who is a world bore on bubblecars (officially read - expert on Microcars - but most folk would not know what a Microcar is and perhaps do not want to in detail)!

I like the idea of Faringdon become a centre of excellance in eccentric activeties. Far more interesting than being just another tourist place etc. Even our fossel sponge seems to have been a bit of an oddity so its something in the soil, our heritage is to be different.

name supplied
Cool and Quirky Faringdon 07/03/10

I have to say I love the light on the Folly - the rather bizarre and aimless way it points around the sky and guides us all all home. And the fact that we have a lighthouse in probably the most land-locked town in England!

I agree with Alan's comments. Faringdon is a town where we dye our doves purple, where a pointless tower becomes our focal point, where we shoot off the steeple from our church. We have always celebrated our eccentrics and championed the unique and unusual.

Little wonder we don't fit into the dull, conformist mould the planners are trying to make for us.

Tom Allen-Stevens Wicklesham Lodge Farm
Wherefore art thou, live music? - 07/03/10

Well, What can anyone say. ??? Live Music in the crown, Also live music in the Lion, Where would you sooner go??? Let me tell you it would be the Lion And not the crown, the reason or some of the reasons are. 1.It's warm in the lion, cold in the crown. 2. many people in the lion , next to no one is in the crown, It looks like the lion is the NEW music venue in Faringdon. I also understand any future music in the crown will be in the top bar. reason being they dont want "that racket" in the front bar!!. Also the crown have done a u-turn about no live music and no sports on TV. What are the regular's meant to think.

regular
Well? - 07/03/10

Jazz Cafe for faringdon arts fest?

Sam Prince
Raoul to the Rescue. - 07/03/10

When I logged on this morning I was faced with an attractive offer from NIS to update my Norton 360 to version 4. As my subscription was due in 30 days time I decided I would. I followed the instructions and received various messages confirming that everything was OK. I have no doubt that the updated version was installed but I have no way of knowing because I couldn't restart my computer
I used Safe Mode/System Restore which is about the limit of my computer expertise but I couldn't connect to the internet so I couldn't ask the helpful people at NIS what was wrong.
I phoned QuidneIT. Raoul removed every trace of Norton using the removal tool downloaded from his computer and my problem was solved.
This not a criticism of NIS as I am sure the problem was all my fault for not being 10 years old and a computer wizard.
If anyone else is as ignorant as me and are tempted by the offer from NIS I'd suggest two important actions before trying.
1.Download the NIS removal tool BEFORE Norton crashes your computer and
2. Keep Raoul's phone number handy
Keeping your fingers crossed is an optional extra..

No to Norton
Dog fouling - 07/03/10

On the plus side the Lechlade Road Schoolside poop bin seems to get at least as much trade as it can cope with so the majority are scooping down here. There are still a few that do not though.

At least there is a warden now. Some years ago a known person had persistant fouling on his house access from one particular person and dog. Reasonable methods yielded no result so he saved several particularly fine examples and wrapped them loosely in newspaper. This was then placed on the doorstep of the person responsible and set alight and the door bell rang at a suitable time. The householder confronted with burning newspaper proceeded to stamp out the conflagration. Message learned.

One problem with dogs is a good sniff attracts additional information. Therefore a dose of industrial disinfectant can work well as hopefully the dog will save his valentine for elsewhere. Not a total solution but at least your not confronted with it.

Alan Hitchcock
Faringdon Cricket Club - 07/03/10

would like to welcome any new players to senior indoor nets on the 21/03/2010, 28/03/2010, 11/04/2010 and 18/04/2010 at Faringdon Leisure Centre 10am-12pm. For further details contact Michael Hume 07968 651230

name supplied
Council Tax. - 05/03/10

The new rates will start next month but so far I haven't found what they will be. Anyone any ideas where they have been published or is the Council still wondering how much they can get away with ?

HGM
Fabric Shop - 05/03/10

Love the idea of a fabric shop in Faringdon! The old little craft shop used to be a wonderful place. As crafting seems to have grown in recent years and become a hobby of all ages, I think a craft shop would be lovely.

name supplied
Freeview digital signal - 04/03/10

I've noticed that others have recommended local traders when they've had good service. Having seen that several people have encountered problems with their tv signal, I'd like to recommend Screenservices of Shrivenham. They fitted an extension to my Sky system today. They gave me a free estimate, excellent advice, arrived on time and were very professional. www.screenlink.co.uk 01793-782221.

Godfrey Smith
Dog fouling at my door! - 04/03/10

Thank you to the owner of the dog, who let it foul right in front of of our front door step. We have 2 toddlers, who out of necessity have to use the door, and who's health must surely flourish after playing with the deposits from your dog!!!!!

It makes me wonder do you take a perverse pleasure in letting your dog foul in front of doors!!!! (as this is not the first time) Returning to the thank you, as i have nothing to do in my life (as having two small kids, i have lots of free time!!), i shall be diligently keeping watch with my camera (possibly thinking of setting up a dog poo web cam) and forwarding any images to the warden. please if you have any decency pick up poo!!!

steve leech
Burglary in Coach Lane - 04/02/10

THAMES VALLEY COMMUNITY MESSAGING - Abingdon - M 01/03/001] Between 0900 hours and 1600 hours on Friday 26th February a property in Coach Lane, Faringdon was subject to a burglary. Offenders have forced open a ground floor sash window and gained entry. Jewellery taken. Please be extra vigilant and report any suspicious people or vehicles in the area.
If you have any information relating to this message please call the Police on 08458 505 505 and quote URN 1004 of the 26th February.

To find out more about Thames Valley Police in your area - please go to our website at http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk
Freeview digital signal - 04/03/10

Here on the north side of London Street the signal seems reasonable - very occasionally the picture breaks up and sometimes the electronic programme guide has no information. From time to time I have retuned the set, but the digibox/recorder thingy I have stubbornly tells me that there is no signal for BBC4 when the TV clearly displays that there is. We have our set tuned to the West, Maybe there is a difference between the reception for the west and that for the midlands. A few years ago we had a new aerial and a booster fitted, which improved reception considerably. I can recommend the aerial company - who did an efficient & reasonably priced job - if anyone is interested.

HT
Dog Fouling - 03/03/10

Thank you to all the people that have contacted me to inform me the identity of the Rottweiler dog which was alledged to have been fouling the streets of Faringdon.
I have approached the dog owner & educated him in his responsibilities of a dog owner. I saw him again the next day and he was seen to pick up after his dog.

Please keep the information coming if you come across any other dog owners that are not fulfilling their responsible duties.

Contact Colin Marshall, Environment Warden Vale of White Horse District Council on 01235 520202 or email environmental.protection@whitehorsedc.gov.uk
Tankers - 03/03/10

Why was half of marlborough gardens kept awake last night? There's been at least 3 big tankers pumping something out of (or maybe even into) the ground for the last 24 hours, making a deep resonating sound that could be heard throughtout the night and is still going on now!

SHUT THE SUCK UP YOU SUCKING TANKERS!

name supplied
Skatepark - 03/03/10

I understood from the previously published plans that the skatepark is to be built on land at the far end of the old Stanford Road and beyond the new cricket pitch - so really a long way from any houses. Similarly, the skatepark in Bampton is in the local cricket/sports ground quite outside the village and, as such, is in a good spot which seems to work well. My boys have spent long, happy, energetic, litter-free summer afternoons there.

name supplied
Be fair to the Road Gangs- 03/03/10

Last week the Road Repair Operatives were scheduled to pay us a visit to refresh the white lines which outline the holey (No disrespect Padre) roads.
Their route involved the Shrivenham bypass and quite rightly they decided not to risk their vehicle's suspension. Other routes are being considered but meanwhile the white markings will be renewed by a man on a bicycle once he has completed the necessary cycling course.
Please be patient and drive carefully They are doing their best !

name supplied
Freeview Info. for Julie- 03/03/10

I have an old TV with a Freeview Box and a new TV with built in Freeview.
They give entirely different results.
After the last recommended retune the Box reassigned all the channel numbers e.g. BBC1 became Channel 806, BBC2 Channel 800. After another retune the numbers just shuffled themselves. The built in TV simply decided I no longer wanted Channel 5 but left the channel numbers alone so BB1 is still Channel 1.
Both TVs provide interesting pixelated (I think that's the right word) pictures and occasional black screens. The only thing they have in common is that the programmes are repeats of repeats of repeats.
I understand that David Cameron has promised to sort out the Health Service , the greedy MPs, the Punishments for Criminals, the Social Security Freeloaders and the Influx of illegal immigrants. So try dropping him an email.
He may add Freeview to his 'promises' list.

name supplied
ANY NEWS ON TESCO - 02/03/10

went to my local shop today brought 9 items and it was nearly £15.00 if i went to tesco it would have been £ 9.00 whats going on with the prices everywere

name supplied
Lost cats - 02/03/10

thanks 2 the cats protection (lou and dorethy).4 the help with the ginger tom who was lost and i had found ,nobody had claimed him that was sad .but hes going 2 a foster home now and hopfully some1 will give him a loving home which he deserves and thanks again 4 the help

sandra
That Monastic Moment. - 02/03/10

What a brilliant conceptual mind! I haven't laughed so much in ages. The best part is, you can visualise the whole plan and the effect on the town. Well done!

Mike Perks
Freeview Box - 02/03/10

Can someone help. I am thinking of getting a freeview box but an unsure about the signal in Faringdon. Has anyone got any adivce? Is it worth getting one or should I got for a free satalite box? I look forward to hearing from you.

Julie Farmer
Is it something in the water? - 02/03/10

It seems to me that the discussions on this site have become increasingly bad-tempered recently. Maybe we'll all cheer up now it looks like spring might finally be here?

name supplied
Success for Faringdon Skaters - 02/03/10

Faringdon skaters started the New Year well.Skaters this year all moving up to next level.
Skaters travelled to Alferton for the Preliminary and Bronze competitions over the weekend.

Richard Whitlock Overall Champion by coming 1st in figures and 3rd in freeskating. Richard has trained really hard for many months putting 7days a week into his preparation.Early mornings before school. He has shown real committment to his sport and this is a well deserved win. Well done

Nathaniel Williams 1st in freeskating

Sophie lewis 8th in the Bronze figures. Unfortunately Sophie had a fall in practice and was unable to take her place in the freeskating. Sophie had worked really hard for this competition juggling exams and training is tough.

Selina James 6th in the preliminary figures. fantastic result. Over 25 Girls in this competition.

Well Done to all our skaters a ggod start to the year

Dee England
ROAD SURFACES - 02/03/10

When are the road gangs going to come into Faringdon to fix the craters that are all over the place? Dodge-the-crater-whilst-driving is not the safest of games! No doubt Faringdon will be bottom of the repair list.

name supplied
Tourists/shops - 02/03/10

Would I want Faringdon to be full of tourists? No. But could it be? Yes.

Faringdon has great tourist potential and is near a confirmed tourist 'must see' route so could pick up some of that trade in day trippers. It only requires intiatives and investment in the potential.

We have a Folly, very English and made famous with the various search lights that have put the town back on the map it was falling off after the bypass was opened. In my opinion a differing coloured search light should be perminant and turned on at various times in the year as suits events.

Your right, the civil war is known history round the world and much could be made of Faringdon's part in it. My visitors love the fact the Church had its steeple shot off! I personally would vote Mike Perks license to create explosions to add to the ambience and incourage the retail of undergarments from the as yet unopened Faringdon Frillies.

We have genuine secret tunnels - except since we are telling people about them they will not be secret anymore. However what self respecting American in long check shorts could resist such a thing, especially if you could walk through them?

Some large museum/exhibition/other draw realy needs to be added, possibly something to do with fossels as Faringdon has a unique and much studied geological structure accessable to view. This in a designated development somewhere around town would help things and attract grant and educational money to create.

Chuck in Pye and some Lord Berners whimsey, a link into art outlet/showroom of some description in itself. The town has long had an artistic background with its own Art Sociaty and local support for Artweek. Commission my sister to continue with her plan to produce nursery rhyme plaques for various houses around the town - see Pye House and Dr Foster in Gloucester Street.

Add Berners dyed Doves, a Totnes style themed market etc. plus some private initiatives you have the makings of something internationally saleable.

As a centre for a week of walking/cycling Faringdon is very well positioned surrounded by some very interesting countryside with all sorts of artifacts and buildings to look at. Thus Hotels to B and B would benifit from a town full of attractions. Passing trade might then bring in some of the afor mentioned shops, we were asked for a dream list after all, so do not be to harsh at the selection.

If Swindon can be twined with Disney nothing is impossible! Mind you maybe Disneyland is really as depressing as Swindon. If the town really wanted to be a tourist town it could do it. Is that where you want to live though? Hmm, it might help me sell classic cars here instead of Cumbria though.....

Alan Hitchcock
Shops. - 02/03/10

many thanks to name supplied for their amusing and factual observations. I particularly like the idea of using the local water,just bottle it and flog it, or even,which i find more appealing, BEER, a small brewery perhaps on the site of the "Pump house". Good name for a pub? It doesn't seem to be doing much as it is. It also has a ready made enclosed area which would suit all the parents looking for somewhere to take their children. The idea of dressing up leads me on to the subject of Fund raising for HAITI. April the 30th at the Corn exchange "PRESSGANG" . please look at www.maddfaringdon.co.uk

Sam Prince
Skate Park & Youth Centre - 28/02/10

Bloor Homes are contracted to make the base of a skate park but this asks the question when they will lay the base and when the fittings will be fitted as well. If it is laid near the new developments surely it will be surrounded by housing and the owners aren't going to want multiple groups of youths trudging through the estate throwing rubbish around and when this starts I'm sure we will all be informed on this site. I'm pleased that people think that people support my idea about placing the skate behind the youth centre. The land out the back of the centre is derelict and was used for the highway traffic patrols depot before it was bought for the Youth centre. The land isn't owned by the centre but property of the council. It does seem more fitting to put the plot there as if people are there on a daily basis it also adds security to the centre as there are always people around. Any thoughts? Any councillors or people of high power or relation to bloor homes care to comment?

name supplied
Some people!! - 27/02/10

Well some people just can't get into the spirit of positive thinking can they!! I mentioned a fabric shop as the one in Bampton (that has been a very successful business for the past 10+ years) is closing down due to retirement so there is definitely a gap in the market. As for family friendly pub, there has been a number of comments on here already about similar... Just thought it would be nice to have some happy thinking on here instead of lots of moaning which has been very regular recently...come on get into the spirit of it :)

name supplied
Development at Wicklesham - 27/02/10

I am all for Wicklesham lodge opening up a shop and a cafe, Faringdon needs a source of local quality produce that you can just pop into in the week or weekends. Budgens veg is the pits, it goes off in a couple of days and usually you can't even find any veg.

name supplied
Skate Park & Youth Centre - 27/02/10

I don't think Jane was being rude, but I can understand her frustration at these issues being raised. They have both been well publicised in the Folly newspaper editorial (and discussed on this site!) There was a meeting and exhibition in the Pump House long before Bloor Homes started building and a map of the development displayed in Marriott's window.

Perhaps this is a good time to remind visitors to this site that the Faringdon Association of Residents is open to everyone and is the place to be if you really want to know what is going on in Faringdon.

Sheila
Shops 27/02/10

How about a marble shop? to replace those clearly lost by anyone who thinks that the range of shops proposed would have any chance of survival in Faringdon at present or in the foreseeable future.

For a start, ask yourselves how many coachloads of tourists do we see each summer, and if there does happen to be one who has got lost on the way to Burford/Bourton etc, how long do they stay.

Work out what makes a tourist trap. It isnt shops, is it? the shops come when the tourist area is already established. Ask yourself what Broadway/Stow/Burford etc, (Eden Project, Monastery? *but see below) have that we don't and you might begin to approach reality.

How much work have you commissioned from the blacksmith this year? How many times a week/month/year do you ACTUALLY visit the perfumier, the ethnic foodstore, the art gallery and so on and SPEND MONEY there and you may begin to understand why local trade won't cut it. We've had a bike shop, an art gallery, a haberdasher, and an outdoor shop, to name but a few. I wonder why they all closed down...?

A critical mass of niche shops sounds very appealing, but for that you need an exceptional built or geographical environment, preferably easily linked with others, and that means more than just a few nice buildings in the middle. It means a smart, clean upmarket town centre without obvious garish fast food outlets/video shops/bookies etc and fag-ends all over the place. It means plenty of parking, a wealthy population and a council that is willing to put the horse before the cart and tackle the fundamental problems of an area rather than tinker with the frills.

I dont think we qualify, but let's dream on if it makes us happy.

So now: MY SUGGESTIONS for using our 'Unique Selling Points'.

We have natural water courses here. Yes we do. Please let's sweep away the Lees, Portway etc (rehouse the residents in state of the art affordable housing in Wicklesham Quarry, thereby granting the longed-for planning consent & increasing the land value), then we could build a posh spa complex near the town centre, re-brand the town as Faringdon Spa, and Bob's your uncle we'd be raking it in.

We also have the site of a *monastery - on the north side of town - might take a bit of rebuilding and some monks to make it work, but hey, theres always a demand for retreat houses, in these days of stress and all things alternative and spiritual. There would be a ready market for your hand made candles, and of course candlesticks. I bet the monks would be dab-hands at brewing using the local water, tilling the earth and producing all that local organic stuff and I do believe that the land there is owned by Berners estates so they might be happy to add another string to their bow instead of flogging Gloucester Street.

What about the famous Faringdon Sponge fossils? Mine them. Faringdon Fossil beauty products & Spa water, could be a winner in the spa complex and offered at specialist shops in town.

How about year-round historical 'battling' courses on the site of the famous battle? That would return the Crown and Bell to their former glory and - specially if they were 'themed' - provide plenty of lusty, ale quaffing customers. (Though sanitary arrangements would probably have to confrom to modern standards.) Dressing up could be optional, kit obtainable to buy or hire from local costumiers & seamstresses and anger management courses for anyone feeling their battling instincts getting our of hand offered at the handy monastery/retreat house.

I think those could all be possibilities for attracting those elusive tourists.
Then - niche shops here we come!

name supplied
Skatepark - 27/02/10

I understood that most councils were shutting their skate parks due to the large increase in insurance costs.

name supplied
Office space needed - 26/02/10

I work from home, doing editing and proofreading etc. Normally I work from a corner of the dining room but have been feeling the need to actually "go" to work more and more. I wondered if anyone had any office space available - a spare desk, an empty room or even a corner of the office where I could put my own desk, with a plug and broadband (though not essential as I have a mobile dongle) I'm on a really low budget but could make a contributiontowards electricity and telephone, and do all your proofreading for you! Needs to be in Faringdon.

Any offers, drop me a line!

Thanks :)

Alison

alisonuk@gmail.com
FOUND: black cat - 26/02/10

A small black cat has been living in my garden for the last three days - we live in Cromwell Close, off Berners Way. He looks well cared for but seems very hungry. He's very friendly, looks like he'd happily move in with us but I'd like to find his real home and send him there!

He's small, maybe 6 months old? Intact as far as I can tell. Blue collar that hasn't been trimmed. Not microchipped. Black all over.

Initially he was seen with a small treacle coloured cat but I haven't seen her for a while.

If he's yours, or you know anyone who's lost a similar cat, please contact me - alisonuk@gmail.com or 07927 330293.

Thanks!
Skatepark- 26/02/10

Maybe I am alone in this, but the news that the skate park location had been finally decided on was surprising news to me. I have been following the story for a number of years (albeit mostly from a distance - I found out what a contentious issue it was when I thought about getting involved a few years ago!!). Jane's (rather rude) comment that the subject had been "done to death" misses the fact that when the final decision was made, it was made very quietly.

Clearly I missed the public consultation on putting it near the new development.

What makes that such a good idea? Can't see it myself. The person who suggested next to the youth centre has made the obvious, and sensible suggestion. Putting together a venue for the young people of the area with all resources in one place makes the most sense.

name supplied
Wishful Thinking/Shops - 26/02/10

Faringdon could do with an electrical store? there use to be one in the premises of Too many cooks but due to small business it closed. I think there is the place for better shops in faringdon and it is time for a change i just dont think tesco's is whats needed. A small argos possibly?

name supplied
Skatepark - 26/02/10

I also agree that a skate park near the youth centre would be a good idea away from houses, I know some one who lives adjacent to the skate park in Stanford in the vale and the low frequency noise of the skates and the wire run drive them mad, this is also making there house very difficult to sell.

name supplied
Re: Skatepark. - 25/02/10

To reiterate what I said before, The base for the skatepark is being laid by Bloor Homes this year. Unless we need 2 skateparks, it is being laid next to the Bloor Homes development and Gloucester St cannot ever be a consideration.

Jane Boulton (Chairman of Recreation & Open Spaces Committee) Town Councillor
Rats Castle - 25/02/10

We recently had a club dinner at the Rat's Castle and had an excellent evening, not our first and not our last. Food was good and freshly prepared, wine was good and reasonably priced, there was music to suit and the ambiance cosy despite it being January. I'd recommend it to anyone unless they were hopelessly square. Just speak to James about your requirements.

Rachel Kenward
Skatepark - 25/-2/10

I don't know who is aware of this land but the land out the back of the new youth centre is unused at the moment and is really in need of renovation. Isn't it in keeping to put a skate park out the back of the youth centre? No neighbours to upset either? Any thoughts?

name supplied
Wishful Thinking - 25/02/10

My vote would go for shops that stretch us, make us more creative, active, healthy; that are tactile, surprising, engaging ..... and allow us to be more appreciative that we are one global village.

Best of all are the shops that really put us in touch with our own locality - our own urban/rural hub. Foods & crafts that are sourced locally for example. Local branding is also important - emphasising our own unique identity (the anathema of clone towns....) .

This MAY also include local sourcing from a DIFFERENT country.
I'm a strong supporter of the "slow towns" movement - where you take the time to really appreciate the provenance and authenticity of goods; you know exactly where they come from & how they were made; that they're local to someone (and you also know who that someone is) ; that they're Good Clean & Fair (these three words are also the basis of the slow food movement) .

Hence my strong support for the fairtrade movement.
Therefore, the list would include (I'm only listing shops that we don't have - so books & deli isn't on there - although I'd love to see Rob the Cheese heaving with customers and therefore being able to hugely increase his range of goods) :
- Whole food/health food (Frugal Foods in Abingdon is great)
- Farm shop (Millets model over at Wicklesham Farm would be perfect)
- Arts & Crafts equipment
- Ethnic foods (would love to see an Indian/Oriental food retailer - but I don't think this would fly!)
- Sports shop
- Bike shop
- Music shop
- Haberdasher
- Outdoor Shop (come back White Horse Clothing!)
- Art Gallery
- Pottery shop + craft Cafe
- Local Artisans: Blacksmith, furniture maker, butcher, baker, candlestick maker ...
- Shop called "The Pink Pigeons" - selling quirky fun eccentric stuff - bit like Hawkins Bazaar but with a local Lord Berners angle!
- Shop like "The Natural World" or "The Living Planet" - with the kind of stuff that you find at the Eden Project shop
- Garden shop similar to the shop that's at the Lost Gardens of Heligan (so - not a full garden centre - and with stuff that's oddly different and locally appropriate)

And then there's a whole raft of possibilities when you get to the REALLY niche/specialist shops, but often THEY turn out to be the most fun & best at attracting visitors if you have a critical mass of such niche shops ... Here's a few real-life examples that spring to mind:
- Perfume shop/factory - (such as in Bourton on the Water - always busy)
- Mustard factory (the Friesche Mosterd factory in the north of Holland is a real magnet for visitors - especially those on bikes. The mustard is of course ground by windmill !)
- Candle factory with hands-on for children (again - North Holland)
- Amber Shop & Museum (in Southwold) - sells mostly amber jewellery - fascinating!
- Monestery shop in Buckfast - selling honey, belgian beer, tonic wine, and anything else made in monesteries around northern Europe

And so on.

Sj
Rat's Castle. 25/02/10

In the past it was the very best place to hold a party !. Not been there for a while - have you tried phoning the manager to ask him about prices ?.

name supplied
Wheelie Bins - 25/02/10

A very short and sweet question .Is there not two available sizes for the wheelie bin ? .If that option is not available , then I think it would be a good idea if it were introduced .

name supplied
Tesco/Supermarket 25/02/10

As I understand it Tesco own land in Park Road. Therefore if that gets planning it will almost certainly be a Tesco shop, not one of their competitors. So is the anti Tesco vote to support the Faringdon House application if we have to have a new supermarket? I wonder if it makes a difference to the reaction against the Faringdon House application as to which of Tesco's competitors takes the site on to develop a shop? However until it is certain Tesco are not going to be able to build a shop on land already owned who of the competitors is going to invest in a land purchase and risk the opposition of another large shop on the doorstep as well as Budgens? Thus the application is already slightly blighted and is this the reason it is an unbacked application with no trading sponser? The council might be said to favour it but investment needs certainty. Unfortunately for detractors Tesco have identified a key fact which is since the A420 was made to bypass the town the main road within Faringdon is the A417. A business which wants to attract travelling trade therefore wants to be on the A417. I certainly would. Add the issues of access to either site etc. and I have to say Tesco have a very strong suit.

The alternative is we do not need a new supermarket at all. Here we land in the world of statistics and vested interests. Well after studying this in college all I can say is you can spend many hours proving many things with the same statistics. Add spin and restrict access to sources and anything can be 'proved' to the poor old public. Of course the fact that there is a second application for a shop just helps to support Tesco's case we need a shop at all and vice versa. So can those against a new shop cut through this bumpf to some factual reason to present the council and holt both plans?

Tesco are very skilled at negotiating thier way through to a profitable outcome and who would put money against them gaining something out of all this? Perhaps this is why they are not liked and I make no recommendation in thier favour as they are a Corporate bully in a world of others using similar tactics.

Strangely this situation echos the controversy of the Faringdon Branch Line being built. The site where the Railway Yard is the very one Tesco have. The arguements against were something similar. The arguement for was dropping trade as the Railway had bypassed the A420 reducing passing trade and the town depopulated. The Railway was built and trade and town population rose. The similarity ends in that the Railway offered two way trade. Tesco offers one way.

Apologies for spelling, dyslexic, no smell check.

Alan Hitchcock
Tesco - 25/02/10

Tesco using statistics (aided by the Vale) to persuade town it needs another supermarket. Hmm a familiar ring to it.

A family pub / cafe with things for the kids to do etc - a skate park and cafe on the Gloucester Street site seems just the ticket.

And wheelie bins. Just where am I supposed to put them with a narrow pavement, no front garden and awkward access with steps through my terraced house? With only two of us they are far bigger than we need - agree smell is the issue, not volume. I was under the impression that regular waste collection on a weekly basis was thought to be a good thing for public health - what's changed?

Finally spare a thought for the unfortunate rural folk in East Sussex. Lacking any suitable sites for landfill, their council's solution is Landraise ie a bunded area covering an area equivalent to 35 football pitches where waste from Brighton will be dumped. Imagine the Steventon reservoir filled with uncovered rubbish instead of water. 4 sites in areas of rural idyll are under consideration with the "consultation" just closed. Strangely people were unaware of the "consultation" till after it had closed and now await the outcome. http://notolandraise.org/Politicians/Wealden.aspx . So we must all do what we can to recycle and prevent that happening here.

name supplied
Rat's Castle - 25/02/10

Hi I am thinking of organizing a party in the Rats Castle and am wondering if anyone has attended an event there. Primarily I am wondering if the bar prices are in line with normal pub prices and whether there is a CD to play music. Many thanks

Ray
Tesco - 24/02/10

Some intersesting reading!
Tesco found guilty of using bogus statistics to convince town it needed a supermarket! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209095/Tesco-guilty-of-using-bogus-statistics-convince-town-needed-supermarket.html

name suppplied
Here come the Wheelie Bins - 24/02/10

There was I just getting to the point of producing very little household waste by not buying much pre packaged foodstuffs and so on. Not just for the evironment but also as I need to change my eating habits and get healthy. So little unused food and that goes to compost in the main.

Recycling, I am fortunate to have space and was in the proccess of creating segrigated bins for differing items and thus to the Council facility as suited volume per bin. Doing this meant my rubbish bag takes ages to fill. Wiff being the factor rather than volume! I therefore do not really need three of these bins and the fourth is going to be rather oversized. Nor do I have a young family nearby who might want to have the oppertunity to top it up as their rubbish will not fit and they live in a smaller property unable to house the extra rubbish or the four bins. One size does not fit all and this wheelie bin thing is not the correct answer to the question. It is an easy answer to the question which is not the same thing. I think the French rural communities have it about right and it seems more effcient.

Incidently I am still unsure why recycling on Friday creates more mess outside in the road than dustbin day after the foxes have checked out the bags. Some Fridays it is like being at a wedding with the amount of crap blowing about and lying in the road. I think this must be a pat on the back for the bin guys for one thing.

Alan Hitchcock
Wheelie Bins - 24/02/10

I am very much in favor of the wheelie bins and recycle boxes coming to Faringdon .I agree ;they may not be the ''best looking '' objects , but they will help keep litter from spreading by containing it in the secure bins . I cannot help but notice Faringdon has a fair amount of litter .Of course I realize that the litter problem comes from many sources . More importantly ; What about our planet earth ?.We cannot just keep digging up huge holes in the ground and bury all our waste in it .We have to look at the wider picture , we want our homes , streets,Parks, and cities clean , so why not the Earth ?.We must try our utmost to recycle what we can, if not for ourselves then for future generations . On a different note ; I do hope folk do not put all dog owners in the same boat . I walk my wee dog often , more so as he has arthritis now.But he is on the lead with me , and he does not poop everywhere. I;like many other responsible dog am appalled at dog owners who do not '' Pick up ''.Have a good day/evening everyone .

Diane Huddle
Faringdon Shops - 24/02/10

I can think of a few stores I would like to see in Faringdon .One being a ''Claires Accessories'' shop .Or a similar store .Mothers and daughters ,even grand mums, I am sure would find this shop a delight .''Us girls '' like our pretty earrings,and bracelets,nail varnishes etc , and an accessory shop would benefit a wide age range of customer .

Diane Huddle
Wheelie Bins - 24/02/10

I live in South Oxfordshire and have had the wheelie bins now for just coming up for a year. We were all experimented on to eradicate problems before extending the service to the Vale.

We recycle so much more now (and we recycled before) - our recycling wheelie bin is full so the green box is used as an overflow, which they also empty. We don't have a front garden, just an off street parking area which is where our bins are collected. The bin men know where they are so we don't need to move them each week.

Personally, I think it is a much improved service. For all that VWHDC may have got wrong in the past - the amalgamation of the waste services with SODC has been a good idea.

Sarah Allen-Stevens
Gloucester Street Site - 23/02/10

Seems to me the site north west of Gloucester Street would be perfect for the skate park - no neighbors to upset with the noise, no traffic issues and a nice extension to the town park. We could even have a park cafe. Surely our 106 cash could run to it!

Rachel Kenward
Here come the wheelie bins - 23/02/10

I've just seen the Vale's magazine that came through the door today. In it I see we will be all getting a wheelie bin for waste, a wheelie bin for recycling, and 2 small bins for food waste.

This will come into operation in October. Deliveries of these bins will start in June. Where are we supposed to put all these bins? Will I be compensated for my existing one which I assume will not be emptied any more? I object to a separate wheelie bin for recycling since we walk all our recycling down to the car park. We've done this for a few years now ever since we got fed up with rubbish and broken glass at the end of our drive when they sorted the green boxes outside our house. I now grow vegetables in my green box! Shall I cut the bottom off the wheelie bins and grow spuds in them maybe? We don't need something the size of a wheelie bin for waste - as it is we only put our rubbish out fortnightly because we only have a small bag.

I pity anyone with no front garden - imagine the chaos with large wheelie bins along Gloucester Street for example.

The Vale will look very cluttered in the autumn.

name supplied
Folly Light - 23/02/10

Just for a change, how about we all stop moaning about what is wrong with planning for Faringdon's future & talk about what we'd like to see happen? I know it's important, but it is also good for your health to be positive...

so what shops & facilities would people like to see?

I'll start - I for one would like a real family pub/cafe with stuff for kids to do & things to play on, and also a shop that sells cheap cards & a material/craft shop.

Sam
Wishful Thinking - 23/02/10

Just for a change, how about we all stop moaning about what is wrong with planning for Faringdon's future & talk about what we'd like to see happen? I know it's important, but it is also good for your health to be positive...

so what shops & facilities would people like to see?

I'll start - I for one would like a real family pub/cafe with stuff for kids to do & things to play on, and also a shop that sells cheap cards & a material/craft shop.

name supplied
Dog Fouling - 23/02/10

Identity required of a dog walker suspected of letting their dog foul the public highway.
Description of person is a white male, meduim build, in his early twenties. His dog is a Rottweiler, believed to have a name beginning with 'W'. The dog & owner have been seen regularly in the Park Road area of Faringdon and down the alleyway heading to Southampton Street (South).
Believed he hasn't been in the Faringdon area long and may live on the new housing estate along Park Road.
Information required to identify person so that Environment Wardens may then follow this up. Contact Colin Marshall, Environment Warden Vale of White Horse District Council on 01235 520202 or email environmental.protection@whitehorsedc.gov.uk

Colin Marshall - Environment Warden
Dog Fouling Awareness Notice - 23/02/10

I am writing to you as a resident of the Vale to highlight the problem of dog fouling in your area. Unfortunately, dog mess is on the increase in your locality and the Council needs your support in helping to eradicate the problem.

Dog mess is not only unpleasant but it spreads diseases which can cause illness and even blindness.
Under the Dogs (Fouling of Land) Act 1996 a person who is in charge of a dog must clean up after it when it fouls any footpath, highway, verge or other open space to which the public have access.
It is a crime to allow a dog to foul in any public area without cleaning it up. By doing so you could face a fixed penalty notice of £50 or prosecution.

Advice for Dog Owners
In order to ensure that you do not fall foul of the law, simply follow these pointers:

Never let your dog walk a great distance from you as this makes it difficult to see when they foul.
Always carry a bag when walking your dog so you can clean up after it.
Encourage your dog to stay on the perimeters of fields or pitches to ensure that any remains of the fouling do not cause any harm to innocent bystanders.
Do not just park up next to a public area and let your dog roam on its own. This dangerous practice could result in not only a fixed penalty for your dog's fouling - your dog could also be taken away as a stray. A collar and ID tag are also required by law.
Please report any dog mess that needs clearing up to the Council's Waste team on 01235 520202, identifying the exact location, eg on pavement outside 24 Ferndale Road, Faringdon.
If you see another dog owner committing this offence please keep a record of anything that can identify them and contact the Vale of White Horse District Council's Environment Wardens on 01235 520202.

Colin Marshall - Environment Warden
Mammoth and the Drum - 23/02/10

See myspace.com/mammothdrum Local band have 3 new, original, songs on their website - let us know what you think and maybe see you at one of our forthcoming gigs.

Sean
Re: Skatepark. - 23/02/10

My youngest son (now 26) was very interested in the skatepark and was invited into a council meeting to discuss it when he was 12. He spent a lot of time planning it and was seriously listened to. I am committed to providing this facility and am doing my best along with several other projects that I think are vital to this town. I would like to beat the drum now but I won't. Please if you want what we want for our town join Our Faringdon, Our Future.

Jane Boulton (FTC)
VoWHDC Planning. - 22/02/10

As with so many things, the devil is in the detail. Take a closer look at the access for the Gloucester Street / Faringdon House site, especially the "sweep" for the delivery vehicles which will be somewhat larger then the vehicles collecting from the recycling bins. Note the possible pavement widening in Gloucester Street and pedestrian crossing. It adds up to a considerable loss of parking for the residents which is in short enough supply as things stand. The recent consultation envisaged the possible removal of parking 6 meters from either side of the driveways / entrances in Gloucester Street (which seems a bit excessive for the existing situation) in exchange for the lifting of the overnight ban on a short stretch opposite Langfords where a pedestrian crossing is now proposed.

Then look at the access road by the side of the Library - where can it be "locally widened" without removing the lime trees, the pavement, or resorting to demolition? It is barely wide enough for two cars to pass, never mind delivery vehicles.

OK, they will schedule the deliveries outside school hours - presumably that means either noisy early morning or late night delivery traffic, or coinciding with commuters leaving or returning to the car park. I trust delivery times will be co-ordinated with Budgens so we don't have 2 lorries trying to negotiate the Gloucester / Marlborough Street intersection.....

And is it really safe and appropriate to increase vehicle movements through such a narrow and confined space by a school entrance? Will we get a new dropping off place for parents as the pavement from the car park will be too narrow for safety with the extra traffic?

That site is not appropriate for a development of this nature and such development is not wanted by many towns people in that location. If the Vale are prepared to trash a conservation area in this way in the face of local opposition, who can and will protect and preserve it? Money talks alas.

name supplied
THAMES VALLEY POLICE COMMUNITY MESSAGING - 22/02/10

Between Friday 19th February and Saturday 20th February theft from vehicles have occurred in Marines Drive, Marlborough Close and Folly View Road in Faringdon. Items taken included garden tools and power tools. Police are advising residents NOT to leave any valuables in their vehicles. If you would like a free tool marking kit contact Ali Smith Crime Reduction Officer on 08458 505 505 or go into Faringdon Police Station between 0900 and 1400 hours Monday - Friday. Please be extra vigilant. If you see any suspicious people or vehicles in the area, or have any information relating to this message, call the Police on 08458 505 505 and state you are responding to a Ringmaster message.

To find out more about Thames Valley Police in your area - please go to our website at http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk
THAMES VALLEY POLICE COMMUNITY MESSAGING - 22/02/10

In response to concerns expressed by the local community, on Thursday 18th February search warrants were carried out at two addresses in Lansdown Road in Faringdon. One person was arrested from each address and cannabis plants and what is believed to be heroin were seized.

Just before midnight on Sunday 21st February one man and one woman were stopped and searched in Ferndale Street in Faringdon.They were both arrested after wraps of white powder believed to be drugs were found.

Local people can help by giving information about crime and drugs either by phoning the police on 08458 505 505 or anonymously to Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111

To find out more about Thames Valley Police in your area - please go to our website at http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk
Meat - 22/02/10

Ah, a forum bully. What a suprise! I have just cleansed one forum of such practice.

To be slander I would have to name a specific source of meat and a provably incorrect alligation. I have not. I issued a generalisation of my opinion of supermarket meat. I reserve the right to my opinion. You have the right to disagree and might wish to provide a factual reasoned arguement to back up your belief so as to sway folk to your point of view. You might even persuade me you are correct for all supermarkets. Being rude is not a valid argument however but unfortunately rather suggests ignorance which rather undermines your opinon to the impartial reader I think. Besides it ignores and sidetracks the issue at the heart of the posting about parking and supermarket development, which is probobly more important to Faringdonians than a cutlet. This might of course be delibrate for all I know.

Thank you for your lack of respect and being a forum bully no doubt you will want the last word.

Alan Hitchcock
Poor signal. - 22/02/10

If you don't want to wait for the switch over you could consider freesat instead of Sky. You get the same channels as freeview but you are not affected by works carried out on the local transmitter. I know you have the pay upfront for the receiver and dish, but if you go with sky you end up paying anyway, just over a longer period. Also Skys got a bad reputation for customer service. I've used both services and Freesat wins hands down for me. You can buy Freesat across the counter from Tescos, Argos of Maplin. Maplin also sell Sat dishes and Sat meters so you can set your dish up yourself.

name supplied
Brandy Island. - 22/02/10

Below are extracts from Natural England re the protection of the Water Vole and Otter:

Water Vole, the law in practice:
It is clearly not the intention of the law to prevent all development, management or maintenance works in areas used by water voles. However, legal protection does require that due attention is paid to the presence of water voles and appropriate actions are taken to avoid committing offences.

If it can be demonstrated that any action that would otherwise have been an offence was the 'incidental result of a lawful operation and could not reasonably have been avoided', this constitutes a defence against prosecution under the Act. This defence thus provides for the carrying out of works that intentionally but incidentally commit offences, such as damaging water vole burrows, but requires that reasonable steps are taken to avoid any unnecessary damage. Only a court can decide what is 'reasonable' in any set of circumstances, but, clearly, agreement between the appropriate conservation agencies (Natural England and the Environment Agency), planners and developers would be important. There is, therefore, an obligation on those who maintain waterways to ensure that appropriate systems are in place to minimise damage and that all reasonable ways of avoiding that damage are used.

See: www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/ne86_tcm6-3692.pdf

Otter:
The Habitats Regulations make it illegal to:
*Deliberately capture, injure or kill an otter
*Deliberately disturb an otter in such a way as to be likely to significantly affect
the local distribution or abundance of otters or the ability of any significant group of otters to survive, breed, rear or nurture their young o Damage or destroy an otter holt
*Possess or transport an otter or any part of any otter
*Sell (or offer for sale) or exchange an otter.

See: www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wmlg02_tcm6-3750.pdf

One would assume destruction of Habitat without planning permission would fall foul of the above?

Mike Perks
VoWHDC Planning. - 22/02/10

Perhaps it may interest Faringdon residents, to see the submissions from Faringdon Estates to the preferred (VoWHDC) options for Tesco's. Yes I know that we have all had enough, but I think this is worth a look: http://www.faringdonhouseestate.co.uk/18097%20A3%20MK%2010%2002%2009%20letter%20to%20k%20barrett%20-%20core%20strategy%20representations%20+%20appendicespdf.pdf
You may draw your own conclusions.

Mike Perks
Skate Park- 22/02/10

Ah! The legendary Skate Park. Will it happen, ever? Most of the kids involved with the start of the "Project" have now grown up, probably got married and have kids of their own. Perhaps FTC should do it's own research before being critical of others.

Mike Perks
Lost signals - 22/02/10

Regarding lost signals, we have considered investing in sky as i am very sad when i don't get to see the new mentalist & csi trilogies! I believe often they are shown later on five usa but feel like we are missing out big time with the poor reception, do we have to wait until april for good transmission? Does anyone with sky have the same problems accessing freeview channels? or is sky the only answer for those wanting immediate tv viewing! love your input

Sam van den Berg
Re: Skatepark. - 22/02/10

I'm sorry if name supplied feels that I was uncommunicative, but all the information about the skatepark has been done to death and is all in the public domain.

I am chair of Recreation and Open Spaces Committee and it is this committees responsibility.

The skatepark base is being laid by Bloor Homes Development as apart of their S106 agreement and we have been reliably informed by them that it will be laid this year.

As a council we have promised Faringdon a skatepark and £8,000 has been kept aside for this purpose for several years. Lack of a suitable place has been the main stumbling block.

There was a group called the SK8 Park Project who were leading the funding and project management for this. They have all gradually left and have passed the funds over to be used when they are needed (minutes of ROS meeting 15/4/09).

With all the will in the world, we cannot provde a skatepark until the base has been laid.

Jane Boulton
Youth Centre - 22/02/10

Sadly we have lost our best youth worker, Dave, he will be missed and the smithy sized hole in the management team will be hard to fill... The centre is looking good and is getting ever closer to opening...stay positive

name supplied
Re: Skatepark. - 22/02/10

Might I Also suggest that Jane Boulton who represents Faringdon Town Council and in turn the people of Faringdon shows us a little more respect !. Comments like this are what alienate ordinary people against council's. So might I suggest a few lessons in communications and good customer relations are what's needed here.

name supplied
Development at Wicklesham - 21/02/10

Vale planning officers wish to block plans to expand Little Lodge Farm Shop at Wicklesham. It's a shame because there's a lot of local support for it, not least Faringdon Town Council, that approved the plans last month.

The plan is to put up a new building next to the shop that will provide a much-needed indoor café area. It will also serve as a meeting room. There are 3-d drawings of the plans on the website.

The grounds for refusal are that a café is not usually acceptable in rural locations. But this ignores the fact that Little Lodge has become something of a social hub of the community, and provides a valuable local service. As Faringdon's only farm shop it also has tourism value, encouraging all to enjoy the beautiful countryside around Faringdon.

Final say will be down to the district councillors on the VoWH Development Control Committee when it meets at the beginning of March. The committee can approve the plans if it feels there are benefits for the local area that outweigh the standard policy that restricts commercial development in rural areas. But local arguments are unlikely to be appreciated by the majority of councillors who have little connection with Faringdon.

So we're keen to ensure we have plenty of views about the application from people who use the shop or enjoy walking through the farm so that district councillors can make an informed decision. If you'd like to make your views known, I'd be very grateful if you could either send them to me (tom@wickleshamlodge.com), or send them direct to the Vale of White Horse District Council via its Public Access system, quoting the planning application reference GFA/10598/8 or computer reference 09/02235/FUL.

Tom Allen-Stevens, Wicklesham Lodge Farm
Coach Lane Cemetery (again !). - 20/02/10

Following the message regarding dog mess in one particular area, I had a look when I was visiting yesterday. I'm pretty certain that it's a cat causing the problem and not a dog. Cat's prefer to go in one area and with this cold weather the ground is too hard for them to be as toilet clean as they like. I guess it's a quiet area and the grass is slightly longer. Once they've found a place then they will return to it. Also, to be fair, it would be pretty tricky for somebody to stand with their dog on one place until they'd 'been' !.

name supplied
Pole Dancing - 19/02/10

Pole dancin'. Jeez! Does this mean that we shall be able to practise by wrapping ourselves around those greasy li'l ol thirty mile an hour signs, the bus stop etc.? Hey. All that over-all fitness! That should certainly provide some traffic calming...No need for red lights anymore...geddit??
There's always been too many o' them there signs in the Market Place, but now I see a whole new use for 'em. Lets have a pole dancing contest - in these days of cutbacks the minimal - er - costumin' required and existing 'facilities' around town could lend themselves to a whole new concept of street theater! Now I see why a local ladies outfitter could make a packet...thongs! (I guess that ol' councillor Hickman must ha' knowed sumpn we didn't when he backed that kinda emporium).
And boys - just think of those eight levels for your members to work through...if ya get ma drift??
Yep. I reckon I'm pretty fit already and ah'm not SOLLicitin' No Sir (!) but hey ah'm a-bookin' up right now, folks.

Polecat
POLE DANCING IN FARINGDON - 19/02/10

Pole Dancing offers a fantastic opportunity to learn one of the most fun and challenging forms of dance there is, whilst improving overall fitness at the same time. There will be 6 week courses available at all of the SOLL Leisure sites, with 8 levels for our members to work through. Free Trial sessions Thursday 25th February from 7.15pm at Faringdon Leisure Centre Call 01367 241755 to book your place
6 week course starts on Thursday 4th March, book your place early to avoid disappointment.

Faringdon Leisure Centre
Baby Blues. - 19/02/10

Both Michelle and I support Andy and Glen about children in pubs, but they have to be controlled just like any other customer that might be upsetting any other guest's in your establishment. We are only 3 weeks in this great market town and we look forward to working with the community in making the Old Crown Warm and Welcoming and also all the landladies and landlords in Faringdon to continue with the lovely spirit the Town clearly has. Many Thanks.

Mike & Michelle.
The Crown - 19/02/10

Hello All from the New Management of the Old Crown, Mike & Michelle & Family There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding about live music at the old Crown, we have not stopped the music just postponed it for feb 2010 as we have just moved in.

Of course dogs are welcome with their owners and we hope George and his owners we can meet when you come in for a pint when taking george for his walk? Just to make everyone aware the 'Heating is fixed and we have warmth'and we now have sky sports in the back bar for all major sporting events.

Mike & Michelle Menhennett
The Faringdon Clinic - 19/02/10

I had to visit the clinic (opposite All Saints Church) and Iam well on the way to recovery. Its good to have the service in Faringdon and not have to travel to Oxford or Swindon. I recommend it to anyone.

Matthew Berry
Re: Skatepark. - 18/02/10

Might I suggest Ms Haynes researches her subject before posting.

Jane Boulton (FTC)
Coach Lane Cemetery/dog mess. - 18/02/10

I think we would all agree - allowing a dog to foul in a cemetery is awful, a really wicked thing to do. I often walk my dog through there just to visit a close family grave. I have never allowed him to make a mess there and he is on a lead at all times. If anybody see's somebody letting their dog mess in there then report it..........but please - don't let this nasty person be the cause of the banning of dogs there. I find it a great comfort visiting the grave and my dog is always with me.

name supplied
No More Noisy Babies!

Thanks, but I think it's been done to death...

Ed (HT)
Noisy babies - 17/02/10

If you really can't think of anything better to do with your child/children than to take them to a pub for the afternoon, could I suggest parenting classes?

Ally
Meat. - 17/02/10

Alan Hitchcock said,
"I am not going to buy my meat from a Supermarket when I can get it from a proper butcher who has not messed it about pumping it full of water etc. Plus if you ask normally you can find out where the beast came from. A Supermarket cannot tell you or you do not want to know!"

It's great that we have two good independent butchers in town, but I can't let this uninformed slanderous b*ll*cks about supermarket meat pass without pointing it out for what it is!

Ifor Phillips
Noisy babies - 17/02/10

hi, sorry. i'm pretty upset by all this rubbish with babies being unwelcome in the pubs of faringdon! i wouldn't want to go in one for fear of my baby making a little noise, its so sad! what are mothers supposed to do in the afternoons? no wonder there are so many mothers with depression nowadays, there is nowhere for them to socialise!! what is this world coming to?!!!

name supplied
Dog Mess - 17/02/10
I went today to visit my relative's grave in the Coach Lane burial ground and saw that in the corner (nearest London Street and Coach Lane), someone has been taking their dog to mess. The area and graves in that corner are covered in dog mess and it is clear that the owner goes there quite deliberately. How absolutely disgusting and despicable.

Name supplied
Brandy Island - 17/02/10

I have just heard that Brandy Island - local beauty spot and conservation area has been sold and could be turned into a boat yard. You may nt know > it by name but many Faringdon residents will visit there regularly. Please see http://savebuscot.com for details

Sally Thurston
Supermarkets - 17/02/10

It seems that some people believe Tesco's to be a benevolent store that keeps prices down for the good of the cash-strapped many. They, like Budgens, are a business that is run to make a profit. This makes interesting reading..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/12/tesco-asda-supermarkets-prices

name supplied
Supermarkets - 16/02/10

The thing that seems to have been forgotten in the debate about a new supermarket and the impact on the Market Square based shops is parking. If there is a new Supermarket with a car park I assume that they would wish it to be free to their customers. However they are not going to be best pleased if these same customers then wonder off leaving their cars blocking the Supermarket car park to further customers while shoping elsewhere. This rather suggests that the rest of Faringdon's car parks should be free as well. If that was the case and the workers within Faringdon could be provided for away from the busy parking areas then I would have thought business throughout the town would improve. After all quite a few of our shops trade on quality and, for instance, I am not going to buy my meat from a Supermarket when I can get it from a proper butcher who has not messed it about pumping it full of water etc. Plus if you ask normally you can find out where the beast came from. A Supermarket cannot tell you or you do not want to know!

Of course the VOWH Council will probobly resist the loss of parking revenue but why do folk drive out/not enter the town to shop? Price and parking. Price is a product of competition and as we pay for parking we lose out to several local town centres straight away. If price is really that important then Aldi or Lidl are an economic two week shop buy away and a local Tesco would not alter my habit. Budgens would be put in a difficult position but I find them very expensive and tending not to stock those lines I like to buy. Carters might have been more expensive than going out of town but it did offer a huge range of lines and responded to genuine needs for oddball lines not normally available from such an outlet. Costcutters would perhaps fare badly from a Park Road Tesco so either position for a new Supermarket threatens one of the existing shops. In fact I now shop more in Stanford ITV Co-op than Budgens on price/lines as you can park next to and do the eBay post and light shop on route to or from while the car is out and warm without hassle.

Enough parking and for free or the lack of it is what strangled Faringdon long ago. Maybe there is an opportunity to re adjust the balance of competition in the Vale in all this planning. Goodness knows we subsidise them enough already.

Alan Hitchcock
Noisy babies - 16/02/10

I totally agree with every word ''A happy customer '' s fair ,and unbias comments .Keep up the excellent work Andy !.You have achieved a great deal in a short period of time since you have been at the Red Lion .I have nothing but praise for you and your staff ! . I would like to add that ''Glen'' from The Bell has been sensible and fair with her contribution on the subject , well done to you Glen .

Diane Huddle
Ref Redlake

Yes

name supplied
Noisy babies - 16/02/10

the bell hotel welcomes families to dine and we provide high chairs but we do expect mothers and fathers to keep their children well behaved and quiet to respect all other customers including our residential guests who use our restaurant and bars.

we are also happy for well behaved dog, but you must remember pubs and hotels are not a creche.
purpose built family style pubs also expect children to be well looked after so all can enjoy what the establishment has to offer.

i would also ask parents to keep their children quiet if it was encroaching on other customers.

glen, the bell hotel
Noisy babies - 16/02/10

Keep up the great job with the Red Lion, Andy. You've made it the best pub in Faringdon by far and I think it's important to acknowledge that the customer base is pretty diverse and keeping all parties happy is a difficult task, but I for one think you're doing it very well.

A happy customer.
Re Noisy Babies - 16/02/10

Here here Andy! I have been bringing my 3 year old to the Red Lion since birth. Unfortunately, the previous Manager of the Red Lion had draconian views on children in Pubs, and alienated local Mothers by making families most unwelcome (and losing afternoon trade when the pub was empty anyway).

It has been a refreshing change to be made welcome with children, and Andy has done the best he can to accommodate. Faringdon does not have any targeted child friendly venues, as a mother, life doesn't stop just because you have children.

name supplied
Redlake - 16/02/10

Just wondered what's going on with Redlake (formerly JDS)? Have they gone bust again, or making way for Tesco's to put up shop?

name supplied
Noisy babies - 16/02/10

I can't see what all the fuss is about with taking babies and children into the red lion. I go to the bell with my children and they are always very welcome. I don't think i will even attempt the Red lion for fear of upsetting the landlord or anyone else for that matter! I agree that people should not take there children to a pub in the evening as it can be unsafe, especially when people are getting drunk. In the daytime though i can't see a problem at all!!!

name supplied
Thai Restaurant - 16/02/10

my partner and i had a fantastic meal in the thai. staff are all friendly and are more than happy to help you choose something to suit your taste.would recomend a visit great value for money

deborah piercy
Noisy babies - 16/02/10

"...had been in the pub for pushing on 4 hours..." that says it all.

Ally
Ginger Tom - 16/02/10

Found ginger tom cat if you think he might be yours please contact sandra on e-mail provided thanks

sandrasaunter07@aol.com
Budgens - 15/02/10

No Citizen Iota, you're right I didn't mean boycot Budgens, I am just sick and tired of reading nasty, small minded, spiteful little comments about Budgens. The comments speak volumes about their authors. I shop in there regularly and I have found the staff cheerful, helpful and obliging, and the shop usually has most of the stuff I want. How on earth do their detractors think the staff feel with the constant moaning and sniping? Each Budgens is an independent store, not a giant with mighty buying power like Tesco and Sainsburys. I daresay some prices are more than the bigger supermarkets, but so what? Make your own sandwiches (see below) if you aren't satisfied. If you want to see some real price hikes do your shopping in Millets farm shop.

It would serve some of you right if Budgens were to shut up shop before there was any other supermarket here. Then where would you be you miserable b****ers. And NO I am nothing to do with the store at all.

Shophound
Budgens. - 15/02/10

Leave Budgens alone? Not me - sorry. They charged £1.69 for an egg sandwich on Saturday when Tescos price is just £1.00. How can that difference be justified?

name supplied
Noisy Babies - 15/02/10

Re Children At The Red Lion
It seems that me asking a mother to attempt to quieten down their child has caused quite a stir. When I came to this pub a year ago children were not catered for at all, however I have bought a high chair and we do a childs menu. Children are very welcome at The Red Lion I would simply like people to be aware that a pub is predominantly for adults and try to keep their children under control.

When I asked some customers last Friday to try to keep their child quiet they had been in the pub for pushing on 4 hours and I would imagine that the children were bored.
I am also happy for dogs to be in the pub and I would expect them to be kept on a lead and under control too.

During the year I have been here the people of Faringdon have been fantastic and I have done my very best to embrace this great community including families and children, in the summer in our garden I have had childrens games, face painting, Easter egg hunts to name just a few.
So bring your whole family with you to this pub but please respect the adult customers that are around. Thanks for your continued support.

Andy Banks The Red Lion
Dog Mess - 15/02/10

I met the Vale's environment warden today, he is on the case with the chronic dog fouling in Faringdon and Stanford and encourages people to contact him directly (Colin Marshall via 01235 520202) if they know of people who are not taking care of their dog's mess. Confidence is assured. On another matter, reading it one way Shophound might be advocating a boycott of Budgens - "Can we please leave Budgens alone for a while?" - but I suspect this wasn't what was intended. As for babies in pubs, I'm not getting involved in that one..

Citizen Iota
Skatepark - 15/02/10

Desperately seeking volunteers to deliver a Skatepark in Faringdon!!!
Faringdon is going to obtain some funding for a skatepark.
Now all we need is a group of community volunteers and a committee to drive this forward.
Anyone who is willing to donate time towards this worthy cause, please step forward and Email Jane.Haynes@Bordengate.com or Tel: 08456 580 510
Thank you

Jane Haynes
Charity Bags - 15/02/10

Your 2 local charity shops are always in need of good quality donations. There are a number of scams where bags are put out for seemingly authentic charities, if in doubt telephone the number on the leaflet and clarify who they are actually collecting for.

Or ring the Vale of White Horse District Council to see if they have a license for house to house collections.

To the lady who puts her rubbish in the bags, please don't do as occasionally has happened when we've received peoples household rubbish and the donations have gone off with the dustbins men!!!

Thank you to everybody who supports charities with their donations

Alison Moore
Noisy babies 15/02/10

I quite agree with the person that didn't like babies being in pubs. They can be quite noisy and there is no reason for them being there. I'd like them banned too.

Whilst on the subject I find people with noisy laughs quite annoying, please can they be stopped or told to go elsewhere ? This doesn't apply if they are in my group or laughing at my jokes. Obviously.

I also hate football and can't see why people need to watch it in the pub, when a goal is scored it can get really noisy. Nearly everybody has a TV at home these days, why don't they just watch it there ? Having said that I don't want to be unreasonble, perhaps if the TV was switched off when I arrive that would be a good compromise ? I don't even mind if it was switched back on after I have left.

Another thing that gets on my goat is the "ka-ching" noise that the fruit machine makes when dispensing money.

Please, if anyone is using it when I'm nearby can they be told to make sure that they don't win anything (ok if I am in the front bar).
If you can arrange that for me, please, then my afternoon in the pub would be perfect.

Thanks, Tilly the Intolerant.
Budgens - 15/02/10

why leave budgens alone the offers have been going through the checkout wrong for years

name supplied
Noisy babies 15/02/10when my daughter and her friends were asked to keep their babies quiet in the red lion the pub was almost empty and they were not crying just being babies why have a highchair if babies are not welcome but not to worry the bell are more than happy for them to take their babies there for lunch

deborah piercy
Noisy babies 15/02/10Noisy Babies Oh dear. The landlord of the Red Lion has started alienating some of his customers. It sounds like it could go the way it was towards the end of the tenure of the previous landlord with an almost empty pub. Still, it's not all bad news, at least I won't have to queue for my pint.

name supplied
Noisy babies 15/02/10Regarding the posts about noisy babies. What Faringdon lacks is a large purpose built family style pub that produces good home cooked food with a play area for children. If there was one I would certainly take my children there. Would be lovely but am sure its highly unlikely to happen. At least then there would be a choice as to which pub to go to.

name supplied
Dog Mess - 15/02/10

On reading the comments about dog mess - it seems to be everywhere in Faringdon and its probably the same dog(s). I took my little ones to the park today by Pye Street - an enclosed area - only to find people in there with their dogs.So I expect there'll be mess in there soon. Unfortunately the people with the dogs didn't look very approachable to tell them they shouldn't be there. So it seems you can't get away from the dog mess where it shouldn't be or dogs where they shouldn't be.

name supplied
Budgens - 15/02/10

Reply to Shophound. Thats just it. Supermarkets make mistakes, we only have one. Now when we get a Tesco; we can whinge about them not having this, or not having that. Until then its a monopoly which quite obviously isnt run very well going by some of the comments. The answer is to shop elsewhere, we cant here; YET.

Colin
Budgens - 14/02/10

Can we please leave Budgens alone for a while. All supermarkets make mistakes sometimes. Slag someone else off for a change.

shophound
Noisy babies - 14/02/10

Mothers of small children seem to have a great sense of entitlement nowadays. Have they no respect for other people's comfort, or rights? When children are old enough to be taught good manners and thoughtfulness for other people , then that is the time they can be taken out to restaurants and other places where others go to relax.

Think of it this way, mummy. Would you be happy if I came and sat near to you when you were having a meal and allowed my puppy to constantly bark and interrupt your conversation? Of course you wouldn't. Neither would anyone else, which is why I don't do it, but we all know that puppies bark, dont we?

name supplied
Noisy babies - 14/02/10

I totally disagree with making babies unwelcome as most people have children, also it's nice to take ur children out for meals, why should they be left with a babysitter all the time. I wouldn't dream of taking my child into a pub where they don't serve food, but the red lion does do food and they also provide a highchair, so to me that says that children are welcome! Oviously I was wrong about being welcome in that pub so maybe I will just take my custom elsewhere!

name supplied
Noisy babies - 14/02/10

How rude and self centered of the woman to suggest the landlord cant have children or he would understand that you cant stop a baby from crying.

Perhaps he has children, but would not take them into a pub, or indeed any place that people go to have a relaxing time. I'm sure he was looking out for the other customers who dont want to get a headache from a crying baby. Perhaps the mothewrs should meet up at one of their own houses for tea/coffee until the children are a bit older!!!

name supplied
ASBOS for babies - 14/02/10

I agree one hundred percent with the woman who says you can't tell babies to be quiet. Also you can't tell them not to be sick or not to fill their nappies.
. These anti social actions are part of the joy of being a parent.
But they are not an equal joy to the people who have to share them and the Landlord was quite right to consider the comfort of his other customers.
The mums think that a pub is the best place to take their offspring but have they considered that their babies may be trying to tell them,in the only way they know how, that a pub is not their idea of a pleasant way to spend their Fridays.

name supplied
Noisy babies - 14/02/10

babies should not be allowed in pubs. everyone knows that babies make noise, and it is totally inconsiderate of there mothers to take them into eating places where other people want to have a quiet meal or a conversation and want to hear each other not noisy infants

Ally
Offers - 13/02/10

budgens have had some great offers lately its a shame they dont go through the checkout at the prices displayed

name supplied
Noisy babies - 13/02/10

my daughter and 2 friends with their babies have lunch in the red lion every friday. but were very upset to be told yesterday to keep their babies quiet. maybe the landlord hasnt got children or he would know you cant tell 9-12 month old babies to be quiet.

deborah piercy
Dog fouling again. - 13/02/10

When I find myself stopping my own dog from even walking on the pavement along Southampton Street and by the tennis courts because of the amount of mess I can only imagine how angry everybody is. I don't want it on my shoes and my dog doesn't want it on his paws. Good dog owners get a bad name because of these selfish people.

name supplied
Charitable Collections - 13/02/10

To Anne Jerome, Maybe your bag was picked up by contractors employed by the Salvation Army to do this? Just a thought.

Fiona Merrick
15 Minute Club - 13/02/10

Thank you Diane for your enthusiastic support. Just a reminder that the 15 Minute Club takes place on the first Sunday every month in its new home at The Red Lion. All types of entertainers are welcome…we're particularly interested in seeing some comedians, poets etc. Look forward to seeing you at the next 15MC on 7th March.

David Reynolds
Dog Mess - 13/02/10

Ditto, London Street & Marlborough Street!

NS
Dog Mess II - 13/02/10

There's also a dog(s) that regularly fouls the path between Volunteer Way and Southampton St. There really is no excuse - there are dog litter bins at both ends.

Anybody witnessing dog fouling where the owner does not clear up afterwards can report the owner to the Vale, for a fine and prosecution.

From the Vale website :
"If you see another dog owner committing this offence please keep a record of anything that can identify them and contact the Vale of White Horse District Council's Environment Warden on 01235 520202."

More details here :
http://www.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/Environmental_health/Dogs_and_the_law/DetailPage-4703.asp

A photo on your mobile phone would be useful evidence.

K9
Dog Mess - 13/02/10

.....and that messgae goes out to those who allow their dogs to continually foul the footpaths in Folly View Road.....CLEAN IT UP!

name supplied
Dog Mess - 13/02/10

whoever is letting their dogs foul the pavements in ferndale street can you please pick it up

name supplied
Charity Collections - 13/02/10

I put my charity bag for the Salvation Army out this morning for collection and it was collected - but not by the Sally Army! A yellow transit van with a Breast Cancer type pink ribbon on the side pulled up outside, two young men leapt out, grabbed my bag and that of a neighbour and they were gone!

When I got home from work there was a new bag on the mat from a "breast cancer charity" based in Lithuania! I am very angry that the clothes I put out for the Salvation Army have been stolen and will no doubt end up being sold on market stalls in an eastern European country. I have reported it to the police but my main concern is to let others know that putting out a bag for a charity may not go to that charity.

I will not be leaving bags for collection on my doorstep again and will go back to taking the items locally.

Thank you for letting me "get this off my chest"!

Ann Jerome
Lost digital channels - 13/02/10

For those of you currently enjoying the lack of ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and several other digital channels, due to work being carried out on the Oxford Main Transmitter, you will be pleased to know that this "service interuption" is expected to last for another 2 months. Apparently at the end of this time, the signal is likely to be 9 times stronger! All something to do with the "digital changeover".

Paul Brame
THE RED LION Welcomes dogs - 13/02/10

on a lead so you will have a watering hole after your walk.

name supplied
Re 'Charity' collection bags. - 11/02/10

Don't put them IN your rubbish, put your rubbish in them! I can't remember the last time I bought bags for household rubbish. Such a saving.

Sheila
Lost Cat - 11/02/10

has any1 out there lost a cat a ginger tom if so please contact me on 01367 243504 hes save and well

Sandra Saunter
15 Minute Club - 11/02/10

My husband and I had a fantastic night in the Red Lion pub last sunday, listening and singing along to the songs performing in the ''15 minute club ''.The performing bands were extremely talented .The music ranged from Love to Rock ballads. Phil Bakers sexy husky voice belted out David Gray songs , and another band sang ''Red Hot Chilli pepper'' songs , if you had closed your eyes you really would of thought it was the orginal band

''Mark s '' voice gave me goose bumps,as it was so beautiful and powerful . A singer who belts out ''Rock '' numbers really should be up there with the likes of Bon Jovi . I am really pleased that ''Andy '' has opened his doors , so the talented bands can perform and give the people of Faringdon a night of entertainment.So come on folks , put your glad rags on and go have a super night .Well done to you Andy !

Diane Huddle
Clothing collections/Charity bags - 11/02/10

We moved to Faringdon last year and have never known so many Charity Bags to be put through our door! At first we left them on the doorstep to be collected as I had nothing to put in them. (I had a good turn out before we moved!)However no one has ever picked up the unused bags despite us being asked to on the envelope. I now no longer leave them on the doorstep so more rubbish for the non recycling bin.

Sally Higgins
Re: Local Transport Plan. - 11/02/10

I am chairing the Faringdon Town Councils working party to research the VWHDC's proposals and produce our wishes to them. This working party is open to any resident to join. I've just noticed that whilst I have been typing this Alan Hickmore has also replied. If Tim Koder would like to contact Diane at the FTC offices in Gloucester St, I would be delighted to coopt him on to my committee and receive his input. Diane will also provide the information you need to read first.

Jane Boulton (FTC)
Clothing collections - 11/02/10

A 'hoody' has just delivered a plastic bag in Jespers Hill on which it is claimed that the collecting company, namely Intersecond, donates £5000 every month to a Lithuanian breast cancer project. Those thinking of leaving out unwanted clothes in these bags might be wise to look at http://www.charitybags.org.uk/clothing_collections/clothing_collections_intersecond_azzara_do_not_delay.shtml. This makes interesting reading. General advice on the internet seems to be 'if you've got clothing to give away, take it to a local charity shop'.

Godfrey Smith
Ref. "I back the Tesco bid" and Transport consultation. - 10/02/10

"Name supplied" has got it wrong. The leaflet that was published about the "three" options was published by the Vale of White Horse District Council (as were the changes to the Market Place)not the Town Council.

The Town Council takes a completely different view that agrees with the location for a new supermarket in Park Road, but suggests (strongly) that it should be part of a comprehensive plan to improve the shopping in the Town centre as well. The development should be looking at the whole of Faringdon's needs and not just this single issue.

Please look at the Town Council website where you will find our response.

Transport consultation.
We set up a group called "Our Faringdon - Our Future" last month. This group of Townspeople is looking at all the aspects of the future of Faringdon and one of its study subgroups is considering transport and roads. If you want to become involved, the next meeting is on 22nd. February at 7.00pm in the Old Town Hall. We need all the input that we can get.

Alan Hickmore FTC Chair of Planning
Apologies to Tim and Sheila - 10/02/10

As a car owner I had not realised how difficult it was to use public transport to get to Witney or presumably many other towns in what I consider to be the local area.
Bus companies must carry out some sort of driving test for their drivers and if they decide that none of them could manage to negotiate the Radcot Bridge so be it. But is it really more of a problem than manoeuvring in the Town Centre? At Radcot there are traffic lights to help and no pedestrians to hinder.
Again speaking as a driver I see buses regularly clogging up the market place and I assumed, if I thought about them at all, that they served the local area.
How wrong could I be?

HGM
Re: Local Transport Plan 3 2011 - 2030. Consultation 4: - 21/1/10

We're all busy talking about the Tesco issue (I'd vote Park Rd if there was any prospect of a vote, but there's hopefully no need because it would be crazy to put a supermarket on the Junior School site), but I agree with Sheila that the transport consultation is worth thinking about too. How about joining up the bus network a little?

Thinking of the journey to Witney, the no. 19 bus from Witney to Carterton gets as close as Clanfield before turning away from Faringdon again. Ever wondered how to get to Lechlade by bus? You have to get to Witney and change there! If there's no plans for new jobs in Faringdon to match the new housing, how about links to Abingdon, Milton Park and Didcot?

Given that the county council think so little of us that they have spelled the town Farringdon on the consultation website

( http://myconsultations.oxfordshire.gov.uk/inovem/consult.ti/ltp3consultation4 )

,I can't imagine things are going to go well for future transport improvements around here unless we make some noise.

Tim Koder
Gloucester Street Plan - 09/02/10

The waste and recycling trucks can barely get out of the Gloucester Stree car park at times as the turning circle from the drive into Gloucester Street is very tight. How Gloucester Street will cope with the increase in traffic, how the safety of children making there way to and from schoolwill be assured is a mystery to me .. and why the intrusion into conservation area - it all speaks of money I'm afraid and greed!

name supplied
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I Back the Tesco Bid - 09/02/10

Before we all start taking sides with what is good or bad for faringdon shopping please remember a couple of things.

The town council very opposed to Tesco in their leaflet they recently distributed are the same people who already killed faringdon businesses when they agreed to the shocking new town layout and the same people (NOT MENTIONING NAMES) who shop on a regular basis in Swindon as well as backing a 50% increase of Bugdens adding an extra 9 parking spaces WOW! that will bring them floading in wont it!!

The new site for budgens is not in the town centre either and would be in a very vulnerable area as tesco area would brighten up an area neglected by the council and as for individuals commenting on traffic i live on Park Road and the introduction of two zebra crossings and an extra turning would slow down traffic as it is a nightmare at the moment.

Oh yes i've not mentioned that Tesco's would be better value as budgens is too expensive and is as bad if not worse when Carters was here (Oh another town killing enterprise say no more).

Budgens staff are great but the shop isn't it is not in touch with the real world Tesco's would bring 100's & 100's of people into town from surrounding villages not to mention all the families that will not go to Swindon to do weekly shops.

The council needs to save money on leaflets and post a referendum so all the people of Faringdon and SURROUNDING areas have a say! COME ON JUST DO IT AND SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE REALLY WANT?

name supplied
Supermarket Options - 09/02/10

So the owners of the Faringdon House site have now shown their hand. Hopefully the plans for the Budgens site will be revealed soon and we can form an opinion on the three proposals on an equal basis.

It's interesting that no specific supermarket chain has been mentioned for the FH site. Maybe they are hoping they will win and then hand it to a supermarket chain on a plate (presumably at an enhanced price). I think access will be the main problem there, with quite a narrow road shared by the school, and traffic will have to go round the one-way system, as it looks as if there is to be no Lechlade Road access.

Personally I hope the town centre proposal is workable - it keeps the shop in the centre of town and the run down area behind Budgens could desperately do with improvement(much better than building on green land in Gloucester Road).

No doubt the immediate neighbours of each site will have their own opinion (I don't live near any), however the Tesco site does have the benefit that Park Road is fairly busy anyway, so the difference won't be so noticeable.

Dan Foring
Faringdon House Estate plans 09/02/10

I have had a look at the new website outlining the faringdon House estate proposal for a new shop behind the Gloucester Street car park and it is exactly as I feared.

Most of the kids going to the junior school use the school entrance off the the road leading into the car park. The road into the car park can barely handle the traffic, especially in the mornings. If this plan goes ahead there would be more cars and HGVs delivering goods to the shop as well.

They say the access would need local widening but I can't see how you could widen the road by the library, unless you lost the pavement entirely.

name supplied
Portway Plan - 09/02/10

I'm on the same planet as Sjoerd, but he's thought it through further than me; my thoughts only got as far as "Phase one: the total redevelopment of the Portway". It's an excellent plan for Faringdon.

Ifor Phillips
M.A.D.D. for HAITI - 08/02/10

Tickets are now on sale for the world music band BARAKA gig at the Community College. Available from the T.I.C and the community college.

Sam Prince
Proposals for Land Adjacent to the Gloucester Street Car Park (Faringdon House Estate) - 08/02/10

At the end of January 2010 representatives acting on behalf of the Faringdon House Estate provided a presentation to Faringdon Town Council's Planning and Highways Committee. This provided details of the proposals for land adjacent to the Gloucester Street Car Park which being promoted by the Estate.

In response to points raised by the Town Council Committee members and comments made by the local community at the public meeting, the Estate has created a website setting out further information for the community regarding the emerging proposals. This is available to view via the weblink below:
www.faringdonhouseestate.co.uk

In summary, we consider the main benefits of this proposal are:
It is located close to the Town Centre of Faringdon and is not 'out of town'
The site has good pedestrian linkages with the Town Centre and the Gloucester Street Car Park
It offers strong potential for linked shopping trips with existing shops in the Town Centre
The provision of new car parking to the benefit of the Town Centre
The land is available for development and commercial interest has been shown from main operators
We hope the website provides the local community with more detailed information regarding one of the proposals for Faringdon. The website will be updated with more information during the coming weeks, but in the meantime, we hope it answers some of the questions you may have.

Michael Knott, Senior Planner, Barton Willmore LLP
Witney Shopping - 08/02/10

I agree that Witney offers a good shopping experience. However, for non-drivers, to get there requires travel on two buses (changing at Kingston Bagpuize or Botley Road, Oxford) and takes between 50 minutes (on a good day!) and 80 minutes. Similar times to get to/from Abingdon. Journeys to Oxford/Swindon take approx 30 minutes. A mini-bus could negotiate the bridge at Radcot - reducing journey time to Witney to about 30 minutes, but will any bus company provide one?

Sheila
Dear dog walker, - 08/02/10

we accept dogs at The Faringdon Coffee House, all we ask is that you follow the steps for dog Etiquette that the Kennel Club have drawn up, these are:

Make sure that your dog is well trained and that it will sit, stay and come on command. .Make sure that your dog doesn't disturb others by barking.
Not everybody will love your dog as much as you do - make sure that it does not jump up at or pester other people.
Dogs are allowed in areas that serve and sell food but they must stay out of food preparation areas.
Do not allow your dog to touch other people's food.
Make sure that your dog is clean before entering the premises.
Make sure that your dog is house trained.
Make sure that you always clean up after your dog - it is your responsibility!

Thanks

The Faringdon Coffee House
keys found - 08/02/10

red key fob with "stock" written on

contact 244660
A TASTE OF PALESTINE! - 08/02/10

Nearly 100 people had a wonderfully colourful Palestinian evening on Saturday in the Catholic Church Hall. A fantastic spread of East-Mediterranean food - displays - and Palestinian dancing provided by 15 enthusiasts flown in on the 66 bus from Oxford.

We're in the process of setting up friendship links with a village called ARURA - just 20 km north of Ramalla - and similar in size to Faringdon.

Anyone interested: the first Arura-Faringdon-Friendship Association (AFFA) meeting is on the 23rd February: 7.30pm ; in the Friends Meeting house in Lechlade Rd.

All welcome!

Sjoerd (241707)
Witney shopping - 07/02/10

...An enjoyable experience.. even for men.
Yesterday my Grand Daughter decided that a trip to check out the new shopping complex, Marriott's Walk, in Witney, would be a good idea. My wife decided she had a point and I decided (as usual) that any argument would be futile...So we went.
The drive, 12 miles, 26 minutes, was pleasant. Speed limits through the villages were acceptable and the pot holes in the road added a touch of excitement as I tried not to hit them .
M&S, Debenhams, Monsoon, Next ,etc provided enjoyable browsing opportunities (I was told) A couple of superior restaurants (offering menus with English subtitles) and a cinema complex promised evening entertainment not equalled locally.
The Woolgate Shopping Centre and the genuinely bustling High Street are minutes away
So, men, still not convinced ? Well consider this..
There are many FREE car parks locally and the Marriott's Walk Complex includes an 8 storey car park, with almost 600 FREE places for 3 hours
The first few floors had the usual crowd of 4x4s and cars with baby seats which I try to avoid because most owners seem to have taken a "How to ding your neighbour's car" course. By level 5 parking slots became more numerous and on floor 6 I had the place almost to myself. Floors 7 and 8 allowing 5 hours parking FREE still had plenty of spaces and this was on a Saturday.
Somehow I no longer felt very interested in a Tesco's with about 100+ free parking slots or a Budgen's with an extra 8 (Unfree)

HGM
Budgens - 07/02/10

I disagree with the disparaging remarks made by one resident about Budgens staff and quality of food. I do my weekly shop online but enjoy popping into budgens for the odd bits and bobs. I am always surprised when I go in by the friendliness of the staff and the range of products available.

I love the sections with local food which would never be available in Tesco. I enjoy buying meat, eggs and veg from here as the standard is so much higher than the supermarket. For me it is not the quality of staff or produce which draws me away but the convenience of free parking and of course and online shop!

On the town open day I was so impressed by Budgens who got so involved, hosting a band and all the staff being dressed up in traditional gear. Would Tesco do that?

name supplied
The Crown and Dogs - 07/02/10

George and his owners was wondering about the new management at the crown. Seeing they are not keen on live music will it be the same for dogs we need to know where we are welcome after faringdon walk

dog walker
PITCHFORKS. - 06/02/10

Just to let you all know, that pitchforks and burning torches are buy one get one free at Morrisons, hope this helps.

Also, I think we are more Lark rise, Candleford are far more forward thinking than us. I always thought that we were twinned with Brigadoon anyway, you know, only comes alive once every one hundred years!

Twister.
"Your Vale - Your Future" - 05/02/10

Please note that Faringdon Town Council has today submitted to the District Council its response to the additional consultation being held by the Vale of White Horse District Council. This submission can be viewed on the Faringdon Town Council website www.faringdontowncouncil.gov.uk under News and Newsletters.

Faringdon Town Council
Farmer Gow's - 05/02/10

What a valuable rare rural resource Farmer Gow's is for Longcot and district. There were a dozen farms in Longcot before the war.

D John Forster
Further reply to pharmacy cover. - 05/02/10

Tis good to have a choice of Pharmacies, more choice than the weekly shop at least; BUT if the Faringdon Pharmacy is to "grow" then it needs bigger premises. You can't for one thing get a pushchair in there which I thought in this PC age was illegal. Sounds like name supplied has some vested interest so get together and make the "prescription cover" for the Town and villages better. Everyone benefits by some common sense being shown then

A Bevin
Portway Plan - 05/02/10

I am disgusted at the proposals for redevelopment of Portway to extend Budgens. I am in the process of purchasing a property there and can assure everyone I wont be budging! I will use Budgens as other residents do for the day to day shop but continue to go out of town for the weekly shop. Unless of course Tescos gets the go ahead when I will use that. I dont believe that Tescos will ruin the town but understand the concerns from the Budgens owner only (not the barbers or butchers as Tescos wont be cutting hair and budgens currently sells meat anyhow) However from my knowledge of people in Faringdon I would say that most people shop out of town now and will shop in town if Tescos goes ahead. Forget the PORTWAY plan because as long as I am a resident it wont go ahead!

Portway resident
No Sainsburys,Think again. - 05/02/10

If Sainsburys at Stratton gets turned into housing, then the land they own opposite the new police station will be the new LARGER proposed store, making it even closer to Faringdon. So, a larger Sainsburys, larger Budgens, Larger Costcutter, and a rather large Tescos are on the cards. Best we all get the petition going NOW to get a bypass to bypass the bypass, because all the large delivery lorries doing the rounds in and around Faringdon, and along the A420, will cause gridlock.

I have my own idea and proposal, and its this..... meet you at the barracades 5 O'Clock sharp OK. Pitchforks and burning torches will be made available.

Oh how I wish we all lived in Candleford, hang on a minute......we do don't we?

namesupplied
Reply to Pharmacy Cover! - 05/02/10

I think its fantastic to have a late night and early morning pharmacy! i understand your frustration in the fact that you could not get your medication, but i think it must be understood that (after working in a pharmacy for over 5 years) there are hundreds of thousands of different medications out there and not all stock can be held in the pharmacy.

Ive been to boots before and had to wait 3 days for medication to be ordered in, so a next day delivery is fanatastic. Both James and Tai of Faringdon Pharmacy are working really hard to make the pharmacy work for faringdon and if you have a repeat prescription of something that is not usually kept on the shelves they will make sure that they do keep it for you in the future, so that you dont have to wait until the next day! I really think we should support what we have got instead of moan about it.

name supplied
More Planning ideas - 05/02/10

Oh dear, I'm afraid I'm about to waffle on/rant a bit, but it's more or less what I submitted to the Vale, so I might as well share it with you.

If you're not interested in wading through it, that's fine. If you read on and agree/disagree that's fine too. Either way, please submit your own representation to the Vale here: http://ldfweb.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/ldf/php/ShowRepresentations.php?doc=16&state=

OK, here goes:

Shopping, housing, business and environmental development in Faringdon cannot be considered independently.

1. Try marking a 300m radius from the centre point of each site, and Costcutters, on the map marked with options for retail development

(http://ldfweb.whitehorsedc.gov.uk/ldf/php/ViewDocument.php?doc_pk= Presumably everyone living outside these circles will take a car, a bus or walk into town? I think not! Now repeat the exercise with the centre point in Market Place. The map clearly shows that the Park Road site is within 5-10 minutes walk for the vast majority of Faringdon residents. It also falls within easy walking distance of many businesses. Employers/employees could shop there on the way to/from work and during lunch breaks. There will be jobs for local people. If Wicklesham Quarry (with footbridge/underpass), could also be developed to include provision for the current occupants of the Park Road site (thereby no reduction in employment), those people could also easily access the store and town.

The community bus service could be routed to town via the store as it presently serves the Health Centre further along Park Road. The 66 Oxford/Swindon bus stops close by.

Free car parking will be available for those living/working outside the centre of Faringdon and for those unable or unwilling to walk for more than 5 minutes. Parking facilities within 5 minutes walk from Market Place are limited. A store on the Park Road site will reduce car journeys for many who currently drive to Swindon, Witney, Abingdon etc for supermarket shopping and may even encourage others to call in to Faringdon.

The current Sainsbury's supermarket site at Stratton is proposed for housing development. Those from Faringdon (and local area) who currently shop there will be looking elsewhere for an alternative.

The car park could probably be used for those entering the town in the evenings and weekends for entertainment, leisure and tourism (when there is something to do/see). No that's silly. There's plenty of room in the existing car parks after 7pm.

Budgens store development is limited by land which may/may not be available for purchase within the near future. If such land were to be used for FREE parking or residential or retail development (in addition to the Park Road site) that might increase footfall in the town centre.

The proposal by Tesco will be a more environmentally friendly store than Budgens (at the moment). Ok Tesco is not everyone's favourite supermarket for a variety of reasons, but they own the site now!

2. The proposed site north west of Gloucester Street is itself on the 'edge' of town (albeit within 300 or so metres from Market Place) and is in the heart of the conservation area. Some people would access the supermarket by car because of free parking spaces. The proposed access from Lechlade Road would pass the school entrances. There are few homes within easy walking distance of the site although those working at or ferrying children to/from the school by car could avoid the hassle of entering further into town to shop, the possible increase of traffic from other users will add to congestion as they pass through the one-way system.

Whilst Tesco have already purchased and put forward plans for their site, nothing has been made available for this alternative 'preferred' option.

The site to the northwest of Gloucester Street is in the conservation area and its development will not benefit the town, although it may profit the current land owner, as did previous 'gifts' to the town

3. It is not a requirement of residency in Faringdon that individuals must only support businesses confined to a small radius of Market Place, but rather that they have freedom to shop where they choose. If people have to travel elsewhere for a ream of paper, children's schoolwear, cds, computers, entertainment or whatever, it is not unreasonable to assume that other purchases will be made at the same time. It is my understanding that business decisions are made on, among other things, costs and benefits (ie profit) to themselves. If they provide something that Faringdonians want or need, they will profit. If not they will fail. It is not only due to the lack of parking spaces!

Has research been carried out about who actually shops in Faringdon - where and when? During the day I see mostly retired people, the unemployed, or part-timers and parents of young children. And at lunchtime/early evening those who work in shops and offices 'nipping out' for one or two items. It could be that they are happy with current provision, and I know that Budgens free delivery service (in response to phone calls as opposed to internet shopping) is much appreciated. I guess other people do all their non-food shopping in Faringdon at weekends. Or elsewhere.

I appreciate the support of the Retail Group and Chamber of Commerce and local businesses and would regret the demise of the latter, but whilst some existing businesses (including those outside the town centre) support activities and events in the town, others (who benefit a great deal from events in the Market Place) do not. Some companies outside Faringdon (eg Asda's contribution to Hallowe'en at the Folly, as well as those who regularly supported the Arts Festival) contribute to the well-being of the town, by helping to enable such events.

4. It is the duty of town, district and county councils to act for the benefit of the people, not just businesses. Show us you have our interests at heart! Keep the town clean. Give us cycle paths, free parking, walkways and short-cuts that aren't restricted by brambles, weeds, litter, poor lighting, potholes and yes, the inevitable dog mess. Let more of the 106 money generated by developments in Faringdon be spent in Faringdon. Make the town centre a delightful place, encourage tourism (not helped by people having to pay for Faringdon guide) support and advertise it across the Vale and Oxfordshire. Or better still, do some joined-up-thinking and propose a plan for the town that we can see and understand.
Thankyou,

Sheila
Pyjama party - 05/02/10

To Hilary and Pat

Brilliant!

Margaret
Baptist Church Memorial Plaques - 04/02/10

I am told that the Faringdon Baptist Church have discovered two war memorial plaques whilst having refurbishments carried out and they would like to invite any living relatives to a re-delegation.

1914 - 1918
Ernest C. Wiggins age 19
Walter V. Rogers 28
Gilbert G. Willis 25
Cecil G. Willis 22
Frederick A. Mobey 19
Albert E. Counsell 39

1939 - 1945
Kenneth J. Webb 21
Raymond Chapman 33
Gilbert H. Whiting 21
Peter W. Berry 24

for more information contact mandmj.jenkins@btinternet.com
M.A.D.D. for HAITI - 04/02/10

The T.I.C. at the Corn exchange will be selling tickets for the Baraka fund raising gig from next week. £5 or £6 on the door. £3 concs.

Sam Prince
Re: More from Tesco - 04/02/10

The Tesco figures on home and office shoppers are interesting, but I think we're in danger of confusing two different shopping experiences.

Tesco was looking for info on people's main food shopping habits - your weekly shop. Naturally this is usually done from home, so Tesco's figure of 84% sounds about right. Those people will tend to shop at a larger retailer, such as Budgens currently, if in Faringdon, or a store further away.

Those who nip out from the office to shop are more likely to use their local smaller shops and services - to grab some lunch, to take something in for repair, use the bank, pick up the odd household item, etc. So those who work in Faringdon will use the shops in Market Sq, London St, etc.

A straw poll of the businesses here at Wicklesham revealed they greatly value and use these smaller shops and services - one small company spends an average of £500 per week in Faringdon. Having these shops available is a big deciding factor for a company planning to move here.

It's little surprise, then, that the footfall through Faringdon's smaller shops has dwindled as businesses have left the town. If everyone has to commute to work to Swindon, Oxford or Milton, of course the town's shops suffer.

So while it's essential Faringdon makes the right choice over Tesco/Budgens/whatever, it doesn't necessarily follow that more people doing their main food shop in Faringdon will bring the town's smaller shops the shot in the arm they need.

That will only come about if Faringdon's business community is allowed to flourish. Currently the Vale's plans put that under threat.


Tom Allen-Stevens
Pharmacy cover. - 04/02/10

Visit the Health Centre or Dentist, get a prescription, and as you live in Faringdon a vibrant market town; you have a choice of 2 pharmacies.

Go to Boots as its nearest, havent got what you need in. Go to the other, same story. Told I can go somewhere else, order it in so SHOULD be in next day!

Who are the powers behind the stock lists that these 2 pharmacies have. Are they the same?

Why cant they work together so that they dont mirror there stock holdings so that on occasions like this YOU can get the medicine you need. Really not impressed with the current services offered.

A. Bevin
To answer some of David's questions..... - 04/02/10

Tesco already get a rental income from the land on Park Road. They may keep it as is and try again for a supermarket in a few years.

The Vale would probably sell their car park at a market price to a retail developer. Since the expansion of Budgens and developing the car park is already proposed in the Vale plan, I guess we can safely assume that the Vale have no problem with this.....

Sarah Allen-Stevens
Portway Plan - 04/02/10

I applaud Sjoerd for coming up with a plan that aims to protect Faringdon Town centre. OK - it has some flaws, but does anyone have any other ideas? We need to increase the footfall in the centre to protect it and encourage new shops. South Marston have employed their own Town Planner to develop plans which will help to protect their community from the Swindon expansion. Swindon Borough Council are dovetailing South Marston's plans with their own plans. Could Faringdon be looking to do the same?

Sarah Allen-Stevens
Freeview issues - 04/02/10

it appears that the Oxford Transmitter is being worked on this week (http://www.ukfree.tv/txdetail.php?a=SP567105) ; its currently broadcasting at low power. Hopefully the work will be finished soon although theres not much detail available.

Nick.
Portway Plan - 03/02/10

Some unanswered questions...

- Tesco already owns significant amounts of land on Park Road. If it cannot proceed with the construction of a store to what use will this land be put?

- Portway… It sounds very presumptuous to assume Portway can simply be trolleyed! Why should the residents be nonchalantly pushed out of their homes to make way for an extended Budgens?

Doesn't this display the same arrogant attitude of which people accuse Tesco?

- The idea of expanding Budgens into the adjacent car park sounds interesting but it is owned by Vale of White Horse District Council. Is it for sale and at what price?...and who will pay for it?

David Reynolds
Lost Digital TV Signal - 03/02/10
I too have lost Channel 4, so i retuned my digibox. Now, I still don't have Channel 4, nor do I have ITV and a number of other channels.

I Blame Tesco!

Guy Robinson
Portway Plan - 03/02/10

I cant see the point of that Portway plan. Does the author think that the planners are going to drop their own plans and say whoopee heres a clever idea, lets go with it? What about the owners of the various bits of land, and the poele who live in Portway. What planet is this person on?

Ally
GOOD NEWS - 03/02/10

The UNICEF fund raising gig for HAITI is on Friday 12 March at the Faringdon Community College.Baraka the world music band will be performing. Support will be from some of the students. other students from the college will be involved in the production of lighting and sound. M.A.D.D. thanks the college for all it's assistance in making this fantastic event happen.Tickets are £5 or £6 on the door, students are £3. Available through www.maddfaringdon.co.uk or 01367-243806. There will be a bar.

Sam Prince
bustling life in Faringdon - 03/01/10

Does name supplied Faringdon have two ars in their Faringdon because its not the same faringdon that I witness on a day to day bassis. Bustling it aint, empty shops, shops that close early on more than one day a week, people eating and dining out, pay close attention to what is happening on that front. Methinks this person is living in cloud ----- land.The truth is it is a quite backwater town with some good points.If it's to be kept the same then stop all the housing development around Faringdon.

Sam Prince
Objection to Tesco - 03/02/10

I wish to object to the proposed new Tesco supermarket for Faringdon. I think it would be detrimental to the town centre and spoil the character of the country market atmosphere it has had up to this time.

nmae supplied
Budgen's says "Yes" to Pyjamas - 02/02/10

Following Tesco's decision to ban customers wearing pyjamas, local pensioners investigate Budgen's customer dress code policy to help them decide whether or not to support Tesco bid;.

Simon Tiensa, Budgen's proprietor says Yes! to pyjamas.

read more...

HT

Photo © Al Cane

More from Tesco - 02/02/10

In the independent market research survey we commissioned, 84% of people living in Faringdon and the rural area surrounding it said that when they made their last main food shopping trip they started from home. Fewer than 7% started from work.

The survey was carried out by NEMS Market Research, a member of MRS, the Market Research Society, and is a statistically representative sample for research purposes.

Melanie Chiswell, Corporate Affairs Manager
Practice Space Needed! - 02/02/10

Can anyone help? Boogie Me are potentially losing their practice space at the Crown on Thursday nights following the arrival of the new management who are considering their approach for the premises. !

For those of you who don't know us, we are a large rhythm and blues orchestra, Faringdon born and bred and have been going for about 4 years. There are usually around 12 of us on a practice night and we urgently need a large space where we won't disturb anyone, with heating, lighting and power.Happy to pay a fee for the hire of the space. !

We usually practice from 8.30pm till 10.30pm. !

Can anyone help? Please call 07734 101226!

Many thanks
Jon
Preserve Our Conservation Area- 02/02/10

Let us preserve what little there is of our conservation area - nobody is seriously going to consider pushing through a new road into the heart of the conservation area (The Farigdon House option) to service a 'parade of shops'!

name supplied
Lost Digital TV Signal - 02/02/10Yesterday (2nd feb) we lost our digital ITV and Channel 4 channels and they haven't yet come back. At first we thought it was a problem with our equipment butI found out today that our friends on the other side of town lost theirs too. Has anyone else in Faringdon also had the same problem? Has anyone told the digital freeview people ? I want them back !

name supplied
Our Faringdon. - 02/02/10

The bustling life in the market twon of Faringdon makes it a very special place, and the local, non cloned shops are what draw people into the centre of the town, where people meet, shopping in the local shops and in the market, eating and drinking in the local inns and resturants, and there is a community spirit. Country life goes on in a way that it has for centuries resulting in people living in harmony, and careing for one another without the influence of government.

If Tesco opens its doors on the outskirts of the town, the centre will die. Most local businesses will have to close as they are unable to compete with the cut prises on mostly imported goods. Faringdon will become a ghost town along with so many other towns. The only businesses that will survive might be the banks and the estate agents. We will have another souless town. .

We are losing our country ways and life to large businesses that have no interst in what happens around them unlike the local shops where the customers are known personnally and served well. .

If the local shops close, how many people will be put out of work and of these, who will want to find a job in Tesco? Few, I suspect. .

Say NO to Tesco and let our town and local businesses live. We come because we love this town, its atmosphere. Our families reside, work and enjoy all that Faringdon gives. .

name supplied
FARINGDON AND FOOD RETAILING - 02/02/10

We've all been asked to send our comments before 12th Feb to Planning Policy
planning.policy@whitehorsedc.gov.uk  Hopefully, all the valuable views expressed here on TP will also have been submitted to the VoWHDC.

For what it's worth - here's what I submitted last week:
INTRODUCTION.

We've been offered the choice of three options as part of the Future of shopping in Faringdon. I believe that all three options could have an important part to play in vastly improving the overall shopping experience in Faringdon, but I also believe that it's vitally important that we prioritize - with three clear phases. We cannot cherry-pick. Choosing just phase three (for example) would destroy the town centre. Overall, let's call thisTHE PORTWAY plan.

Phase one: the total redevelopment of the Portway in Faringdon: into mixed flats (for example) and extensive new attractive car park. This Portway area, together with the existing Budgens, the existing S'hampton St car park, and Catholic church car park would provide a "blank canvas" of contiguous land that would be at the centre of the new "Faringdon Marketplace Shopping experience".

Phase two: (could happen in parallel with phase one, but cannot happen WITHOUT phase one) the Faringdon House site could be developed into mixed small retail, residential + community.

Phase three: (important that this ONLY happens when phases one/two have had time to bed in - eg after five years minimum) we could then (and only then) develop the competitive food retailing offerings in Faringdon by allowing development on Park Rd - for example.

1. WOULD EXPANDED BUDGENS MEET FARINGDON SHOPPING NEEDS TO 2026 ?

Short answer: No, not on its own - but it IS a CRUCIAL part of phase one of any overall improvement strategy. .

Longer answer: An expanded (AND IMPROVED) Budgens TOGETHER WITH EXTENSIVE ATTRACTIVE FREE PARKING ADJACENT TO STORE will certainly be an immense improvement to the inferior food shopping experience that we have now (choice, price, parking, etc); it would claw back some of the substantial 75% leakage; and it would be ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENTS of a town centre revitalisation strategy (the other being the development of the Faringdon House site as additional small & interesting retail / community/residential)

Summary to question 1 : We MUST have a good food retailer together with extensive and pleasant free parking - and this must be part of the Market Place Shopping Experience (not 300 or 600 yds away).

2. SOUTHAMPTION ST - EIGHT EXTRA PARKING SPACES?

Salt and wounds springs to mind. However - the PORTWAY PLAN would give a new footprint of contiguous land that would allow a redesigned food retail outlet together with 100+ adjacent and free parking spaces.

3. BUILDING OUTSIDE THE TOWN CENTRE?

Definitely NOT - before phase one and phase two have had a good chance (eg five years minimum) to bed in. FIRST - we must allow phases 1/2 to create a vibrant town centre, attracting visitors and shoppers for all the right reasons. Building outside the town centre while the historic town centre is already hurting would be a criminal mistake.

The strategy of replacing a failing town centre with a new "clone centre" somewhere else is utterly unsustainable. Do you then repeat this process in 20 years time when the clone centre also fails?

Our slogan should be: "Fix it, Don't Abandon it"

The historic town centre has an 800 year old history. Fix it - don't abandon it - so that it can take us into the next 800 years as a thriving interesting vibrant place to visit & meet & shop & live & work.

As phase three however (after a five-year amnesty period to allow phases one and two to become effective - and assuming that phases 1/2 have been effective in revitalising the historic town centre) , a slightly-out-of-town food retailer could be a valuable competitive alternative to keep the in-town retailer(s) on their toes, and to give shoppers increased choice.

4. FARINGDON HOUSE LAND FOR SUPERMARKET?

Definitely not. Main reasons: you're abandoning the existing town centre rather than trying to fix it; a supermarket ripping up a conservation area is completely wrong - particularly when you have the real opportunity to develop the existing historic town centre properly through the PORTWAY PLAN.

. The Faringdon House land would however lend itself well to improving the range of smaller non-clone retail outlets. This could be combined with sympathetic residential & community facilities - that are more in keeping with the sympathetic development of conservation area for the benefit of the community.

Done well, a development of smaller retail outlets on Faringdon House land could highlight another of our natural assets.

5. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

In 2018 - in just eight years time - it will be 800 years ago that Faringdon received its charter as a market town.

Let's make sure that we'll then be celebrating - not commiserating.

The PORTWAY PLAN would be an important step in the right direction.

Sjoerd Vogt
Folly Park Car Park - 01/02/10

Hi. I was just wondering who's responsibility the Folly Park car park falls under as the pot holes are getting worse by the day which is a real shame as I enjoy taking my dog for a walk around the park but may have to find somewhere else to go as the risk of bottoming out my car is not worth it.

Sam
Faringdon Artistic Skating Club - 01/02/10

Congratulations to all our skaters passing tests on saturday Georgina Howe Silver Figures and Freeskating Richard Whitlock Inter bronze Figures Sophie Lewis Bronze Figures Selina james Elementary and Prelimary Figures Melody-Sophie- Louise -and Tess All passed basic skill6. Fantastic. We would like to Thank the leisure Centre who have supported us over these passed months in encouragement when times have been tough but also ensuring the floor is emaculate for our test day.Thankyou.

Dee England
retail & other development 01/02/10

You are right. My comments do make depressing reading, but they are not a vision of the future, they are a vison of the present based on my own observations, and published facts which can be checked by anyone.

I have nothing against cheap housing, quite the reverse, in fact; (If you only knew!) but I think that we could address the existing demographic imbalance which impinges on aspects of this area. Although we are rightly obliged at present to accept a proportion of affordable accommodation within our housing allocation, there is a case for trying to even things up.

Retailers will come if they think there is sufficient demand, they don't need the choice to be made for them. The proposed Tesco is as I understand it is predominantly a food store, which makes sense. People need food on a day to day basis. Clothing, on the other hand is something which is not bought by individuals daily, and nowadays mostly they are used to, and prefer, a larger choice than can be provided by a small local retailer. There is a huge choice already within a convenient distance, and it is unlikely that those people who cannot or do not wish to travel out of town (even those whose children have to go barefoot) would provide sufficient trade for a local store at present. or in the near future. If the position changes you may rest assured that a canny retailer will spot the opportunity.

In lots of ways Faringdon is a lovely place to live, with plenty of activities, a good sense of community and public spirited individuals providing a variety of entertainment and interest.
However, many 'local plans', 'strategies' 'wish lists' whatever you like to call them, have come and gone over the years, but successive councils and councillors have chosen to cherry pick those projects which are the most interesting or high profile, and from which they can derive the most public credit. These are often doomed because they are insufficiently researched, over ambitious, under-funded (or a combination), and consequently fizzle out having wasted money and energy. We suffer from being at the arse-end of both the Vale district and the county, but if our councillors would make a concerted and - most importantly, sustained - effort to tackle the long established but boring problems I mentioned before, the town might develop into a more inviting place.

Who knows, we might even attract posh 'boutiques' for all those tourists and prejudiced, filthy-rich people like me....

"name supplied"
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